PLEASE make me NOT buy Sigma 10-20mm F4-5.6 EX DC

**pentagor** · 06-04-2008, 12:22 AM

Originally posted by Jasvox

What kind of duty are you going to have to pay for that when it arrives here?

Jason

There is a 6.7% of customs duty in the EU for SLR camera lenses. This is calculated on the whole price including the transport costs. Then you have to add your local VAT rate on that.

gkopeliadis · 06-04-2008, 12:31 AM

Originally posted by pentagor

There is a 6.7% of customs duty in the EU for SLR camera lenses. This is calculated on the whole price including the transport costs. Then you have to add your local VAT rate on that.

That's still 20% lower than the best online price I found in EU!
It's an experiment of mine, anyway

**pentagor** · 06-04-2008, 01:30 AM

Originally posted by gkopeliadis

That's still 20% lower than the best online price I found in EU!
It's an experiment of mine, anyway

That's correct. And the best part is: Sigma has international warranty for the lenses.

Edit: You said, that you put an order at Adorama?
I just calculated:

Lens: $499 plus $47.50 to Greece = $546.50 = 364 EUR
Plus customs duty and VAT (20%): 364 EUR * 1.267 = 461 EUR.
I can get this lens for 450 EUR here at a local store....

gkopeliadis · 06-04-2008, 07:52 AM

Originally posted by pentagor

I can get this lens for 450 EUR here at a local store....

But I can't ....

The only reason for me to buy from some local store is to try the lens first and then buy the exact one tested. I've done that with many lens I've bought or didn't. But as I said before, buying lens overseas is an experiment of mine. I've found more interesting prices to other merchandise as well (i.e. tripod, flash ...)

EDITED: A photographer friend of mine, told me that he has bought several lens from Adorama and only once he had to pay duties on an over $1000 Canon lens. Most of the time, with less than $750 merchandise, the lens went directly to his workshop. He has calculated that overall he has payed 5% duties.

Last edited by gkopeliadis; 06-04-2008 at 08:07 AM.

**pentagor** · 06-04-2008, 08:40 AM

It can happen that customs officers are not doing their job as they should. Luckily for you! But EU regulations are very simple: The shipments up to 25 EUR (including postage costs) are taxes free.

SpecialK · 06-04-2008, 06:33 PM

Originally posted by gkopeliadis

[FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=3]I mean it

I'm about to order a Sigma 10-20mm F4-5.6 EX DC.
I've red a lot about ultra wide lens (not fisheyes) on the net and I decided to buy the above mentioned lens (fine analysis and reasonably low CA and PF).
Is there anyone to avert me from buying it?

If you get the Sigma 10-20 it is likely you will not get the Pentax 10-17 and/or 12-24.

jgredline · 06-04-2008, 08:43 PM

Get the lens. Here are some samples.

[/QUOTE]

jgredline · 06-04-2008, 08:46 PM

And a few more.

gkopeliadis · 06-05-2008, 01:09 AM

Originally posted by jgredline

Get the lens. Here are some samples.

Just e-x-c-e-l-l-e-n-t

Thanks

gkopeliadis · 06-05-2008, 03:50 AM

Originally posted by pentagor

I can get this lens for 450 EUR here at a local store....

Pixmania Slovenia list that for 661€
Are local physical stores in Slovenia cheaper than the online ones (and by far!) ?

**pentagor** · 06-05-2008, 04:14 AM

Originally posted by gkopeliadis

Pixmania Slovenia list that for 661€
Are local physical stores in Slovenia cheaper than the online ones (and by far!) ?

I spoke with Sigma Slovenia directly. Dealers are crazy here in Slovenia too.

I was asking them about international warranty and they made me a better offer. Try it yourself too.

lbam · 06-05-2008, 04:29 AM

Yeah, this lens sucks bad!

**pentagor** · 06-05-2008, 04:33 AM

Originally posted by lbam

Yeah, this lens sucks bad!

It really does!

Great shot BTW!

gkopeliadis · 06-05-2008, 04:34 AM

Originally posted by pentagor

I spoke with Sigma Slovenia directly. Dealers are crazy here in Slovenia too.

I was asking them about international warranty and they made me a better offer. Try it yourself too.

I'll do it for the 70-200 which is next in my list

Ted1212 · 06-05-2008, 09:09 PM

Will it take a polarizing filter?

06-04-2008, 01:30 AM	#48
pentagor Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Ljubljana, Slovenia Posts: 495	Originally posted by gkopeliadis That's still 20% lower than the best online price I found in EU! It's an experiment of mine, anyway That's correct. And the best part is: Sigma has international warranty for the lenses. Edit: You said, that you put an order at Adorama? I just calculated: Lens: $499 plus $47.50 to Greece = $546.50 = 364 EUR Plus customs duty and VAT (20%): 364 EUR * 1.267 = 461 EUR. I can get this lens for 450 EUR here at a local store.... Last edited by pentagor; 06-04-2008 at 01:38 AM.

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06-04-2008, 12:22 AM	#46
pentagor Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Ljubljana, Slovenia Posts: 495	Originally posted by Jasvox What kind of duty are you going to have to pay for that when it arrives here? Jason There is a 6.7% of customs duty in the EU for SLR camera lenses. This is calculated on the whole price including the transport costs. Then you have to add your local VAT rate on that.

06-04-2008, 12:31 AM	#47
gkopeliadis Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: ATHENS, GREECE Posts: 308 Original Poster	Originally posted by pentagor There is a 6.7% of customs duty in the EU for SLR camera lenses. This is calculated on the whole price including the transport costs. Then you have to add your local VAT rate on that. That's still 20% lower than the best online price I found in EU! It's an experiment of mine, anyway

06-04-2008, 07:52 AM	#49
gkopeliadis Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: ATHENS, GREECE Posts: 308 Original Poster	Originally posted by pentagor I can get this lens for 450 EUR here at a local store.... But I can't .... The only reason for me to buy from some local store is to try the lens first and then buy the exact one tested. I've done that with many lens I've bought or didn't. But as I said before, buying lens overseas is an experiment of mine. I've found more interesting prices to other merchandise as well (i.e. tripod, flash ...) EDITED: A photographer friend of mine, told me that he has bought several lens from Adorama and only once he had to pay duties on an over $1000 Canon lens. Most of the time, with less than $750 merchandise, the lens went directly to his workshop. He has calculated that overall he has payed 5% duties. Last edited by gkopeliadis; 06-04-2008 at 08:07 AM.

06-04-2008, 08:40 AM	#50
pentagor Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Ljubljana, Slovenia Posts: 495	It can happen that customs officers are not doing their job as they should. Luckily for you! But EU regulations are very simple: The shipments up to 25 EUR (including postage costs) are taxes free.

06-04-2008, 06:33 PM	#51
SpecialK Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: So California Photos: Gallery Posts: 16,481	Originally posted by gkopeliadis [FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=3]I mean it I'm about to order a Sigma 10-20mm F4-5.6 EX DC. I've red a lot about ultra wide lens (not fisheyes) on the net and I decided to buy the above mentioned lens (fine analysis and reasonably low CA and PF). Is there anyone to avert me from buying it? If you get the Sigma 10-20 it is likely you will not get the Pentax 10-17 and/or 12-24.

06-04-2008, 08:43 PM	#52
jgredline Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: LosAngeles, Ca. Photos: Albums Posts: 10,628	Get the lens. Here are some samples. [/QUOTE]

06-04-2008, 08:46 PM	#53
jgredline Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: LosAngeles, Ca. Photos: Albums Posts: 10,628	And a few more.

06-05-2008, 01:09 AM	#54
gkopeliadis Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: ATHENS, GREECE Posts: 308 Original Poster	Originally posted by jgredline Get the lens. Here are some samples. Just e-x-c-e-l-l-e-n-t Thanks

06-05-2008, 03:50 AM	#55
gkopeliadis Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: ATHENS, GREECE Posts: 308 Original Poster	Originally posted by pentagor I can get this lens for 450 EUR here at a local store.... Pixmania Slovenia list that for 661€ Are local physical stores in Slovenia cheaper than the online ones (and by far!) ?

06-05-2008, 04:14 AM	#56
pentagor Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Ljubljana, Slovenia Posts: 495	Originally posted by gkopeliadis Pixmania Slovenia list that for 661€ Are local physical stores in Slovenia cheaper than the online ones (and by far!) ? I spoke with Sigma Slovenia directly. Dealers are crazy here in Slovenia too. I was asking them about international warranty and they made me a better offer. Try it yourself too.

06-05-2008, 04:29 AM	#57
lbam Veteran Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery Posts: 442	Yeah, this lens sucks bad!

06-05-2008, 04:33 AM	#58
pentagor Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Ljubljana, Slovenia Posts: 495	Originally posted by lbam Yeah, this lens sucks bad! It really does! Great shot BTW!

06-05-2008, 04:34 AM	#59
gkopeliadis Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: ATHENS, GREECE Posts: 308 Original Poster	Originally posted by pentagor I spoke with Sigma Slovenia directly. Dealers are crazy here in Slovenia too. I was asking them about international warranty and they made me a better offer. Try it yourself too. I'll do it for the 70-200 which is next in my list

06-05-2008, 09:09 PM	#60
Ted1212 Inactive Account Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: US Posts: 41	Will it take a polarizing filter?