Originally posted by Jannis Thanks for your pictures. It seem taht *50-135 can resolve full 24MP of K3 sensor.
This is what I'm currently thinking about. Using my current (and beloved) *50-135 and get "telephoto option" by increased resolution of 24MP without AA vs 16MP with AA. Theoretically, I can get more then 50% more resolution - but from DXo mark the improvement is about 35% - about the same as using TC1.4 (If TC will be absolutlly ideal, and it is not).
Beware the number of pixel is 50% more and DxO also give number in MP. Thoses units are comparables. And DxO shows only 35% more for lenses because well not all lenses are perfect, they need to be stopped down and only the center give the best. DxO give one number that also account for less than optimal apperture and border performance.
On the other end, there the low pass filter removal that also affect a lot the sharpness. If you had a K5-IIs it wouldn't be that important to upgrade really. A big share of the gain comes from the filter removal. Look K5-IIs vs K3 on DxO and K5-II vs K5-IIs.
But the TC this a focal length ratio. This is distance scale, not surface scale. Converted into surface this is +100% (1.4 is indeed the approximation of the square root of 2, that why you see it everywhere in photography). The TC will bring more reach than changing sensor. But because it add other optical issues, I'am not sure this is overall much better than migrating to K3.
Originally posted by Jannis This is my usual Zoo lens - but sometimes a need more reach. So lastly, I get to ZOO 50-200 instead of it - It was good experience, becouse I learned, that 200mm will be enough to me (If I can crop as I can with my 50-135).
In the view finder you see more reach, something the TC would fix. (189mm vs 200mm is almost the same). In term of available detail, teh 50-135 can resolve much more details than your 50-200 (enough to see the crops !). Even with your K5-II, you can more reach with the 50-135 in practice than with the 50-200. That's the whole point.
Originally posted by Jannis Im not sure about this. Its heavier than my current most heavy setup - and it is the most expensive solution. New it is about $1300. And used here, in Europe? On e-bay i cannot find anything used from EU. I haven't seen any of them on our local shop (biggest in our country) with used lenses for maybe 5 years (and I'm not brave enough to buy something that expensive without any buyers protection). So, as I stated before, i cannot counting with used prices. Only with new prices.
I sold my 50-135 used less than 1 month ago for 500€. I saw several 60-250 for 600-800 here on the forum. If you want great price, you need time and to look for it. Look for you what is more expensive... Spend some time to wait for a good offer and look at the market place... or spend 500€ more on a new product.
As for size/weight the 50-135 is comparable to DA*200 and the 60-250 is comparable to DA*300. You will not gain in weight/size or even price really by going for DA*300. You would gain in quality but the focal length would mean it is good for 300-500mm range and it particulary bad for sub 200mm range. You would need to have both the 50-135 for many shoots at the zoo and also the DA*300 for some other shoots.... While the 60-250 could be your only lense and do everything. The 50-135 + TC would approximate that.
Originally posted by Jannis Mayby I can just wait for upcoming K-3 succesor and buy it or wait for discounted K-3. The only problem is, that here discontinued models arent discounted much. For example, k-5IIs is for $930. K-3 with current cashback is only $920 - so I'm affraid, tah it is the best price that we can get here. (Launch price was about $1750 here - body only).
It is a mater of time. The K5 finished his life at 500€ new and now you could buy one used for 350€. The K30 that has same feature as K5 finished his life as 250€ in sales. or 400€ bundled with 18-135 couting I guess you could resell the 18-135 for at least 200€.
K-S1 and K-S2 both are 20MP without low pass filter. K-S1 is already available for 480€ here. Like K-S2 would sell the same in 1 year and K3 would be 600€.
The way you seems to use your gear you need more the TC or a 60-250 to see the reach directly in the view finder than added resolution because you don't appear to crop much in practice. Otherwise you would never have used the 50-200.
Originally posted by Jannis So my decisions are now:
1) buy a k-3 and get close with croping of 24MP no AA sensor
2) buy DA*300 and get great telephoto.
3) buy DA*200 and get great and small telephoto.
4) buy da*60-250 and get hreat versatille telephoto zoom
Remember that using the prime would mean very specialized work. DA*200 is good for 200-300mm range really and DA*300 is good for 300-450mm range.
if today you use mostly your 50-135 it mean you also need this range. While DA*200 is no bigger than DA50-135 and DA*300 is equivalent to DA60-250, if you go the prime route, you would need at least 2 (like adding a DFA100 macro) or keep the 50-135 in the bag and changes lenses depending of the subject.
In term of weight/bag size that would be the worst.
Originally posted by Jannis But. I assume, that DA*200 arent quite highly regarded as others. Why?
It not as good as the DA*300 as a prime and except for the f/2.8 that is prone to chromatical aberations, many consider the zooms to be as good or better (70-200, 60-250).