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shaolen · 03-17-2015, 08:29 AM

Pentax should make either a DA 18mm limited tilt shift lens or a D-FA 28mm limited tilt shift lens. Who's with me?

**jatrax** · 03-17-2015, 08:41 AM

Here you go: SMC Pentax 28mm F3.5 Shift Reviews - K Prime Lenses - Pentax Lens Reviews & Lens Database

But it is only shift of course. I would be interested in a 28mm tilt / shift for the FF camera. But I doubt it will ever happen, not enough potential sales.

We do have this available: http://www.adorama.com/RK24TSPX.html? and that might be the closest we get.

**mike.hiran** · 03-17-2015, 09:40 AM

Originally posted by shaolen

Pentax should make either a DA 18mm limited tilt shift lens or a D-FA 28mm limited tilt shift lens. Who's with me?

Limited would imply small - I would love to see a small, rugged, weather sealed tilt/shift! But I would think that would be very hard to make... Of course being under $1500 would be important too....

I have been playing around with the Rokinon 24mm and so far I'm liking it. It handles flair poorly, but it seems decently sharp stopped down (haven't tested it at wider than f8 yet) and the color seems to be ok. Just getting my feet wet before I decide if this type of lens is really needed for architecture and landscape shots...

stevebrot · 03-17-2015, 09:51 AM

It is a niche market and I see no reason to make such a lens a "limited". Price alone would signify exclusivity and expensive it would be regardless of format!

Steve

**crewl1** · 03-17-2015, 09:51 AM - **1 Like**

Why is tilt shift needed these days when you can replicate the miniature town effect and straighten buildings all by manipulating the file in software?

(Honest question, not a knock on OP.)

stevebrot · 03-17-2015, 09:56 AM

Originally posted by vagrant10

I have been playing around with the Rokinon 24mm and so far I'm liking it.

You have the Rokinon 24mm? Sounds like we should have another Portland area meetup!

Steve

SpecialK · 03-17-2015, 10:00 AM

Originally posted by jatrax

We do have this available: Rokinon TSL24M-P 24mm f/3.5 Tilt Shift Lens for Pentax KAF Camera TSL24M-P and that might be the closest we get.

That is a pretty good price. That is as long as I would go on APS-C, though it would be great on the upcoming FF.

Originally posted by crewl1

Why is tilt shift needed these days when you can replicate the miniature town effect and straighten buildings all by manipulating the file in software?

That involves stretching pixels. The tilt is the fun part as you change the plane of focus.

**crewl1** · 03-17-2015, 10:02 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by SpecialK

That is a pretty good price. That is as long as I would go on APS-C, though it would be great on the upcoming FF.

That involves stretching pixels. The tilt is the fun part as you change the plane of focus.

Ah, fun I understand, I'm all for that !

**jatrax** · 03-17-2015, 10:05 AM

Originally posted by stevebrot

You have the Rokinon 24mm? Sounds like we should have another Portland area meetup!

I was just going to post the same thing. I'll bring my 28mm shift.

stevebrot · 03-17-2015, 10:08 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by crewl1

Why is tilt shift needed these days when you can replicate the miniature town effect and straighten buildings all by manipulating the file in software?

Because faux miniature is not the primary usage and correction in software is lossy and/or prone to artifact and because having tilt-shift optics allows for true change in perspective.*

Steve

* Perspective is driven by the position of the entrance pupil relative to the subject. The lens movements allows modification of the projection to provide control of the plane of focus and a controlled crop of the image circle to fit the lens orientation. A tilt-shift lens allows good control, though a view camera with full movements of both lens and capture media is better.

shaolen · 03-17-2015, 10:10 AM

Originally posted by crewl1

Why is tilt shift needed these days when you can replicate the miniature town effect and straighten buildings all by manipulating the file in software?

(Honest question, not a knock on OP.)

I've been doing that in post and honestly its getting annoying and time consuming and I finding it to not look so natural which is why I've been interested in getting a tilt shift

stevebrot · 03-17-2015, 10:11 AM

Originally posted by jatrax

I was just going to post the same thing. I'll bring my 28mm shift.

...and I will bring my FF film cameras!

Steve

shaolen · 03-17-2015, 10:22 AM

anyone know when this beast is coming out? Schneider-Kreuznach 28mm F4.5 PC-TS Super-Angulon HM Aspheric Lens Reviews - Schneider-Kreuznach Lenses - Pentax Lens Review Database

stevebrot · 03-17-2015, 10:32 AM

Originally posted by shaolen

anyone know when this beast is coming out? Schneider-Kreuznach 28mm F4.5 PC-TS Super-Angulon HM Aspheric Lens Reviews - Schneider-Kreuznach Lenses - Pentax Lens Review Database

You mean this lens? (63.5mm image circle!!!)

https://www.schneideroptics.com/ecommerce/CatalogItemDetail.aspx?CID=1822&IID=10248

Schneider PC-TS Super-Angulon 28mm f/4.5 HM Aspheric 06-1075956

B&H will accept pre-order if you have the extra $$$ just laying around.

Steve

**Kerrowdown** · 03-17-2015, 10:44 AM

Originally posted by crewl1

Why is tilt shift needed these days

It can keep yourself out of reflections... which are much more difficult to lose in PP.

03-17-2015, 08:29 AM	#1
shaolen Veteran Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Phoenix AZ Posts: 1,047	limited tilt shift lens Pentax should make either a DA 18mm limited tilt shift lens or a D-FA 28mm limited tilt shift lens. Who's with me?

03-17-2015, 09:51 AM - 1 Like	#5
crewl1 Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Los Angeles, CA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 9,807	Why is tilt shift needed these days when you can replicate the miniature town effect and straighten buildings all by manipulating the file in software? (Honest question, not a knock on OP.) Last edited by crewl1; 03-17-2015 at 09:57 AM.

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03-17-2015, 08:41 AM	#2
jatrax Site Supporter Join Date: May 2010 Location: Washington Cascades Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,991	Here you go: SMC Pentax 28mm F3.5 Shift Reviews - K Prime Lenses - Pentax Lens Reviews & Lens Database But it is only shift of course. I would be interested in a 28mm tilt / shift for the FF camera. But I doubt it will ever happen, not enough potential sales. We do have this available: http://www.adorama.com/RK24TSPX.html? and that might be the closest we get.

03-17-2015, 09:40 AM	#3
mike.hiran Site Supporter Join Date: May 2007 Location: portland Photos: Albums Posts: 1,491	Originally posted by shaolen Pentax should make either a DA 18mm limited tilt shift lens or a D-FA 28mm limited tilt shift lens. Who's with me? Limited would imply small - I would love to see a small, rugged, weather sealed tilt/shift! But I would think that would be very hard to make... Of course being under $1500 would be important too.... I have been playing around with the Rokinon 24mm and so far I'm liking it. It handles flair poorly, but it seems decently sharp stopped down (haven't tested it at wider than f8 yet) and the color seems to be ok. Just getting my feet wet before I decide if this type of lens is really needed for architecture and landscape shots...

03-17-2015, 09:51 AM	#4
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	It is a niche market and I see no reason to make such a lens a "limited". Price alone would signify exclusivity and expensive it would be regardless of format! Steve

03-17-2015, 09:56 AM	#6
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by vagrant10 I have been playing around with the Rokinon 24mm and so far I'm liking it. You have the Rokinon 24mm? Sounds like we should have another Portland area meetup! Steve

03-17-2015, 10:00 AM	#7
SpecialK Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: So California Photos: Gallery Posts: 16,482	Originally posted by jatrax We do have this available: Rokinon TSL24M-P 24mm f/3.5 Tilt Shift Lens for Pentax KAF Camera TSL24M-P and that might be the closest we get. That is a pretty good price. That is as long as I would go on APS-C, though it would be great on the upcoming FF. Originally posted by crewl1 Why is tilt shift needed these days when you can replicate the miniature town effect and straighten buildings all by manipulating the file in software? That involves stretching pixels. The tilt is the fun part as you change the plane of focus.

03-17-2015, 10:02 AM - 1 Like	#8
crewl1 Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Los Angeles, CA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 9,807	Originally posted by SpecialK That is a pretty good price. That is as long as I would go on APS-C, though it would be great on the upcoming FF. That involves stretching pixels. The tilt is the fun part as you change the plane of focus. Ah, fun I understand, I'm all for that !

03-17-2015, 10:05 AM	#9
jatrax Site Supporter Join Date: May 2010 Location: Washington Cascades Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,991	Originally posted by stevebrot You have the Rokinon 24mm? Sounds like we should have another Portland area meetup! I was just going to post the same thing. I'll bring my 28mm shift.

03-17-2015, 10:08 AM - 1 Like	#10
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by crewl1 Why is tilt shift needed these days when you can replicate the miniature town effect and straighten buildings all by manipulating the file in software? Because faux miniature is not the primary usage and correction in software is lossy and/or prone to artifact and because having tilt-shift optics allows for true change in perspective.* Steve * Perspective is driven by the position of the entrance pupil relative to the subject. The lens movements allows modification of the projection to provide control of the plane of focus and a controlled crop of the image circle to fit the lens orientation. A tilt-shift lens allows good control, though a view camera with full movements of both lens and capture media is better.

03-17-2015, 10:10 AM	#11
shaolen Veteran Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Phoenix AZ Posts: 1,047 Original Poster	Originally posted by crewl1 Why is tilt shift needed these days when you can replicate the miniature town effect and straighten buildings all by manipulating the file in software? (Honest question, not a knock on OP.) I've been doing that in post and honestly its getting annoying and time consuming and I finding it to not look so natural which is why I've been interested in getting a tilt shift

03-17-2015, 10:11 AM	#12
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by jatrax I was just going to post the same thing. I'll bring my 28mm shift. ...and I will bring my FF film cameras! Steve

03-17-2015, 10:22 AM	#13
shaolen Veteran Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Phoenix AZ Posts: 1,047 Original Poster	anyone know when this beast is coming out? Schneider-Kreuznach 28mm F4.5 PC-TS Super-Angulon HM Aspheric Lens Reviews - Schneider-Kreuznach Lenses - Pentax Lens Review Database

03-17-2015, 10:32 AM	#14
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by shaolen anyone know when this beast is coming out? Schneider-Kreuznach 28mm F4.5 PC-TS Super-Angulon HM Aspheric Lens Reviews - Schneider-Kreuznach Lenses - Pentax Lens Review Database You mean this lens? (63.5mm image circle!!!) https://www.schneideroptics.com/ecommerce/CatalogItemDetail.aspx?CID=1822&IID=10248 Schneider PC-TS Super-Angulon 28mm f/4.5 HM Aspheric 06-1075956 B&H will accept pre-order if you have the extra $$$ just laying around. Steve

03-17-2015, 10:44 AM	#15
Kerrowdown PEG Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Highlands of Scotland... "Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand" - William Blake Photos: Gallery Posts: 57,864	Originally posted by crewl1 Why is tilt shift needed these days It can keep yourself out of reflections... which are much more difficult to lose in PP.