A quick K 85 1.8 v's FA77 comparison

noelpolar · 04-15-2015, 12:24 AM

I took a couple of shots of a Rose at the community garden today....K 85 1.8

K85 Rose.jpg by Noelpolar, on Flickr

then FA77 shot of Rose.... a bit different....but so it goes...manual focus and aperture set on 77 as per 85....f/4 i think.

FA77 Rose.jpg by Noelpolar, on Flickr

To my eye....either will do.

Both were just processed how I do things..... not exactly identically.

redcat · 04-15-2015, 04:07 AM

they are nice but not from the same angle so a little difficult to compare

noelpolar · 04-15-2015, 04:19 AM

Maybe I'm becoming to flippant......last thing I'd try to do is a serious attempt at an exact comparison......life is to short to undertake a comparison at the standard required of this forum!

Sandy Hancock · 04-15-2015, 04:41 AM

Actually I quite strongly prefer the FA77 image here, but there are many compositional reasons why this may be the case rather than any particular lens quality.
That said, size and AF also score on the FA77's side, so it's a no-brainer to me.

redcat · 04-15-2015, 05:35 AM

Originally posted by Sandy Hancock

That said, size and AF also score on the FA77's side, so it's a no-brainer to me.

yeah, it's in my to-buy list

**UncleVanya** · 04-15-2015, 10:01 AM

To me the K85 1.8 looks sharper or maybe a little more contrasty and I like the bokeh a little better. Honestly I'm with Sandy in the conclusion - it's close enough either way and AF vs. no-AF makes a huge difference to me.

GeneV · 04-15-2015, 07:38 PM

The FA77 is in my top 5 most used lenses out of a stable of 40, but that is because of its magic with people.

Funny, I just tried rose photos with it for smaller blooms just coming from the buds, and it just didn't get close enough for me. One of the DFA macros will be summoned for that job.

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noelpolar · 04-15-2015, 08:31 PM

Originally posted by GeneV

The FA77 is in my top 5 most used lenses out of a stable of 40, but that is because of its magic with people.

Funny, I just tried rose photos with it for smaller blooms just coming from the buds, and it just didn't get close enough for me. One of the DFA macros will be summoned for that job.

A cheap extension tube does it.......especially if one doesn't have 40 lenses! (I sold my tamron macro)

Personally......I define LBA as double digit lens ownership!

Sandy Hancock · 04-15-2015, 11:09 PM

Originally posted by noelpolar

A cheap extension tube does it.......especially if one doesn't have 40 lenses! (I sold my tamron macro)

Yes. I will keep my HD DA 35/2.8 macro limited forever, but I find it increasingly hard to justify keeping my DFA100WR....

drypenn · 04-16-2015, 12:23 AM

Originally posted by Sandy Hancock

Yes. I will keep my HD DA 35/2.8 macro limited forever, but I find it increasingly hard to justify keeping my DFA100WR....

Easy, the DFA100WR will be very easy to justify once the FF arrives.

Sandy Hancock · 04-16-2015, 12:33 AM

Originally posted by drypenn

Easy, the DFA100WR will be very easy to justify once the FF arrives.

That is the only reason I still have it.

drypenn · 04-16-2015, 12:35 AM

Originally posted by Sandy Hancock

That is the only reason I still have it.

You have a very nice collection of glasses that even the venerable DFA100 is in the fight of her life just to be kept in your stable!

GeneV · 04-16-2015, 05:25 PM

Originally posted by Sandy Hancock

Yes. I will keep my HD DA 35/2.8 macro limited forever, but I find it increasingly hard to justify keeping my DFA100WR....

Funny, I use the DFA 100 one quite a bit. Roses where I want distance from the bees and close-ups of jewelry where I want out of the way of my softbox near the subject are frequent reasons. Bug photos of all kinds need that extra distance.

GeneV · 04-16-2015, 05:34 PM

Originally posted by noelpolar

A cheap extension tube does it.......especially if one doesn't have 40 lenses! (I sold my tamron macro)

Personally......I define LBA as double digit lens ownership!

I actually ended up using the Voigtländer 40mm Ultron with the dedicated closeup lens. It worked pretty nicely. I have since picked up the DFA 100 from the studio. (I did not set the lens length, so the EXIF reads 500mm from my last manual lens)

04-15-2015, 12:24 AM	#1
noelpolar Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Goolwa, SA Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,310	A quick K 85 1.8 v's FA77 comparison I took a couple of shots of a Rose at the community garden today....K 85 1.8 K85 Rose.jpg by Noelpolar, on Flickr then FA77 shot of Rose.... a bit different....but so it goes...manual focus and aperture set on 77 as per 85....f/4 i think. FA77 Rose.jpg by Noelpolar, on Flickr To my eye....either will do. Both were just processed how I do things..... not exactly identically.

04-15-2015, 04:19 AM	#3
noelpolar Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Goolwa, SA Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,310 Original Poster	Maybe I'm becoming to flippant......last thing I'd try to do is a serious attempt at an exact comparison......life is to short to undertake a comparison at the standard required of this forum! Last edited by noelpolar; 04-15-2015 at 08:34 PM.

04-15-2015, 08:31 PM	#8
noelpolar Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Goolwa, SA Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,310 Original Poster	Originally posted by GeneV The FA77 is in my top 5 most used lenses out of a stable of 40, but that is because of its magic with people. Funny, I just tried rose photos with it for smaller blooms just coming from the buds, and it just didn't get close enough for me. One of the DFA macros will be summoned for that job. A cheap extension tube does it.......especially if one doesn't have 40 lenses! (I sold my tamron macro) Personally......I define LBA as double digit lens ownership! Last edited by noelpolar; 04-16-2015 at 12:14 AM.

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redcat Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Paris Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,939	they are nice but not from the same angle so a little difficult to compare

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Sandy Hancock Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Adelaide Hills, South Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,275	Actually I quite strongly prefer the FA77 image here, but there are many compositional reasons why this may be the case rather than any particular lens quality. That said, size and AF also score on the FA77's side, so it's a no-brainer to me.

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redcat Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Paris Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,939	Originally posted by Sandy Hancock That said, size and AF also score on the FA77's side, so it's a no-brainer to me. yeah, it's in my to-buy list

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UncleVanya Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2014 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,459	To me the K85 1.8 looks sharper or maybe a little more contrasty and I like the bokeh a little better. Honestly I'm with Sandy in the conclusion - it's close enough either way and AF vs. no-AF makes a huge difference to me.

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Sandy Hancock Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Adelaide Hills, South Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,275	Originally posted by noelpolar A cheap extension tube does it.......especially if one doesn't have 40 lenses! (I sold my tamron macro) Yes. I will keep my HD DA 35/2.8 macro limited forever, but I find it increasingly hard to justify keeping my DFA100WR....

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drypenn Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Photos: Albums Posts: 963	Originally posted by Sandy Hancock Yes. I will keep my HD DA 35/2.8 macro limited forever, but I find it increasingly hard to justify keeping my DFA100WR.... Easy, the DFA100WR will be very easy to justify once the FF arrives.

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drypenn Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Photos: Albums Posts: 963	Originally posted by Sandy Hancock That is the only reason I still have it. You have a very nice collection of glasses that even the venerable DFA100 is in the fight of her life just to be kept in your stable!

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GeneV Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Albuquerque NM Photos: Albums Posts: 9,830	Originally posted by Sandy Hancock Yes. I will keep my HD DA 35/2.8 macro limited forever, but I find it increasingly hard to justify keeping my DFA100WR.... Funny, I use the DFA 100 one quite a bit. Roses where I want distance from the bees and close-ups of jewelry where I want out of the way of my softbox near the subject are frequent reasons. Bug photos of all kinds need that extra distance.