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05-06-2015, 07:44 PM   #1
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560mm vs 600mm

If money were no object, which would you choose? The FA* 600mm f4 or the DA 560mm f5.6? I'm wrestling between which of the 2 I want to save for. The 560 is WR and half the weight. The 600 is 1 stop faster and 40mm longer. I really like the f4 of the 600, but my messed up back would prefer the weight of the 560. Would love some input from those who currently own or have owned either/both. Would also really appreciate someone to be the voice of reason, since I obviously am not.

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I think the 600mm is in an entirely different league. You'll be proud to own it if you got one. But having something like the 300mm plus a TC could also be a viable and more compact option.

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Personally, I find neither appealing for their shear size alone. I even tend to get a little squeamish when contemplating
a 200/4. I just don't like big lenses.

BUT, >if< I were in need of something like that, this would be my reasoning....

Both are grossly big. Either way you've committed to schlepping a huge piece of glass. Either is going to require a tripod.
Either is going to require a backpack to carry. Cost is about the same, so no factor there. >If< you know for certain
that you'll be using it in wet weather a lot, then the DA560 probably makes better since. Otherwise, go for the faster
FA600.
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I've used the DA560mm once in a zoo. and found it superb in quality and reach right from wide open, it was an overcast day with light rain so even though the f/4 would have been more useful in terms of light gathering and exposure, the WR feature was more useful to give me (and the owner) peace of mind to use it under rain. and yes I managed to get some hand held shots with it (Not to forget the pain on my left hand the day after).
In case you were interested, Here you can find some of the shots I've shared on flickr.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Kameko Quote
If money were no object, which would you choose? The FA* 600mm f4 or the DA 560mm f5.6? I'm wrestling between which of the 2 I want to save for. The 560 is WR and half the weight. The 600 is 1 stop faster and 40mm longer. I really like the f4 of the 600, but my messed up back would prefer the weight of the 560. Would love some input from those who currently own or have owned either/both. Would also really appreciate someone to be the voice of reason, since I obviously am not.
There's been some (faint) rumors of a 300mm f2.8 project in development from Ricoh/Pentax. If this is true it'll probably be a D-FA* 300/f2.8 lens AW, DC, HD .dot..dot.dot...you get the idea. Now that's something worth saving over...
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Oh, and I do currently own the FA* 400mm. I'm looking for more reach without losing light by adding a TC to my current setup. I've used the 400 as my main walk-around lens for the past year so I'm ok with added weight.

QuoteOriginally posted by Adam Quote
I think the 600mm is in an entirely different league. You'll be proud to own it if you got one.
This comment has me intrigued. I love FA lenses, love how they handle.
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If you really want to go nuts - someone had an old Pentax 400mm f/2.8 for sale on KEH. I don't see it anymore
SMC Pentax-A* 400mm F2.8 ED [IF] Reviews - A Prime Lenses - Pentax Lens Reviews & Lens Database
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QuoteOriginally posted by Kameko Quote
Oh, and I do currently own the FA* 400mm. I'm looking for more reach without losing light by adding a TC to my current setup. I've used the 400 as my main walk-around lens for the past year so I'm ok with added weight.
The DA560 would do it, I noticed that it is discounted at SRS (don't know why...) compared to other sellers and cheaper compared to the sigma 500 f4.5. When going to supertele, we can't have it all, it's either long heavy expensive, or dark and AF does not work. Recently I stacked 2 HD1.4x TC+DA300 (=600mm) , reach is great , IQ can be good once accurately focused, but the view finder is dark and phase detect does not work, at 600mm it is also harder to frame due to narrow field of view.

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QuoteOriginally posted by tvdtvdtvd Quote
Cost is about the same, so no factor there.

I wouldn't agree here.
- FA600 (right now 10% off on ebay) USD 7.000,- - Pentax SMCP FA 600mm F 4 If Ed Lens | eBay
- DA560 GBP 3000,- -> USD approx. 4.567,- - Pentax SMC HD Da 560mm F5 6 Ed AW Super Telephoto New UK Stock 2 yr Gtee | eBay
Plus I'd consider that FA600 will always be more/less used lens, while DA560 will be brand new with warranty.
Should I be in the position to buy one, I'd probably go for DA560.


QuoteOriginally posted by Kameko Quote
If money were no object, which would you choose?

But hey, if money and weight are no objects, then FA600 is the king, no discussion.

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There's a D-FA 300 f2.8 HD AW DC IF coming (probably next year) aren't you guys listening????
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QuoteOriginally posted by Stavri Quote
There's been some (faint) rumors of a 300mm f2.8 project in development from Ricoh/Pentax. If this is true it'll probably be a D-FA* 300/f2.8 lens AW, DC, HD .dot..dot.dot...you get the idea. Now that's something worth saving over...

Well, then we need a very good 2xTC and I'd be more than happy.
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QuoteOriginally posted by zzeitg Quote
Well, then we need a very good 2xTC and I'd be more than happy.
Pff, easypeasy....they can design it on a weekend...
The question is what am I gonna do with my Sigma 300/f2.8 then
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QuoteOriginally posted by biz-engineer Quote
Recently I stacked 2 HD1.4x TC+DA300 (=600mm) , reach is great , IQ can be good once accurately focused, but the view finder is dark and phase detect does not work, at 600mm it is also harder to frame due to narrow field of view

Oh, I'd be very interested to see some sample shots!
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QuoteOriginally posted by Stavri Quote
The question is what am I gonna do with my Sigma 300/f2.8 then
I can accept it as a very nice birthday or Christmas gift
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QuoteOriginally posted by mtux Quote
I've used the DA560mm once in a zoo. and found it superb in quality and reach right from wide open, it was an overcast day with light rain so even though the f/4 would have been more useful in terms of light gathering and exposure, the WR feature was more useful to give me (and the owner) peace of mind to use it under rain. and yes I managed to get some hand held shots with it (Not to forget the pain on my left hand the day after).
In case you were interested, Here you can find some of the shots I've shared on flickr.


Your zoo shots are amazing, mtux!!! Now this DA560 is tempting me even more... Do you still own this lens?
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