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02-06-2007, 09:10 PM   #16
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trang78: You don't happen to have 100% crops of the 85 and 77 lying around, do you?
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02-07-2007, 03:36 PM   #17
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I can tell you one thing. I saw photos from the 77mm lens in the photo gallery of one of the big contributors to this forum. I have never used an 85 or a 77 but I e-mailed the man and told him I thought the results of that 77 lens are just about the best photos I have seen anywhere. Some day when I can scrape the money together I'm definitely getting the 77MM, because it seems like a great, great lens. Regards, Freddy
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QuoteOriginally posted by Manwe Quote
I am in *need* of a moderate telephoto. Not saying that I will buy one now, but I need something to dream about.
I read you loud and clear

Most of my LBA is in the thought and theory, itís fun but also cheaper.



The A* 85mm f/1.4 seems to be getting excellent user feedback. Remember the link by Jim King, to a place that have them home :

KevinCameras


In time, Iím thinking about getting both the 77 lmt. and the FA* 85, though the last one will require more patience. I manage to convince myself that I can use them for different purposes.

For now Iíll settle for the 100 macro.

Thanks to Roentarre for the background theory behind the 77 and 85.
What does GAS mean ?



Manwe if youíre still looking for diagrams, remember

Bojidar Dimitrov's Pentax K-Mount Equipment Page

In => Technical Specifications
Under each lens, the Optical Formula exits
(like : http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/lenses/primes/_optics/77f1.8.jpg )



Great forum, with very functional user interface.
02-11-2007, 06:35 PM   #19
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QuoteOriginally posted by roentarre Quote
Most of my information came from Jonas, Godfrey and Fred. If you searched their threads in DPR, you would get plenty of them.

I can summarise a few things for you to the best of what I knew so far.

Fa 77 ltd shares similar optical design to A* 85 f1.4 (From DPR Fred's post)
Thank you for the credit.

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Thank you for the credit.
Fred, was it you that discovered that the FA*85 starts its DOF slightly in front? I couldn't remember where I read that on the 'net.
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QuoteOriginally posted by tranq78 Quote
Fred, was it you that discovered that the FA*85 starts its DOF slightly in front? I couldn't remember where I read that on the 'net.
No, not I.
02-20-2007, 07:50 AM   #22
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Hi Manwe,

I think you should go for the A* 85mm f/1.4. It is more discrete than the FA* 85, got a bit more reach than the 77, and can be combined with faster shutter times.

The A* 85 is easier to find than the FA* 85, and cheaper to get used.
For the K10, you can buy a magnifier viewfinder as optional accessory.

Here is Freds thread on the two 85, and the 77 :
Two Brothers and a Cousin - the A* 85/1.4, FA 77, and FA* 85/1.4: Pentax SLR Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review

Here is a another place that have the A* 85 home :

ABRO instrumentenhandel Zaandam
(courtesy Janneman, click on Kleinbeeld)
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Just wondering how the new DA70 limited compares with the 85/1.4 & 77/1.8?

I'm a dreamer too. Likelyhood of getting any of these in the not-too-distant future is extremely low. When/if I am able to get one, I expect the only thing available will be the DA70 limited.

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HAha go on ebay and buy a Jupiter-9 85mm f2.0 from Russia. I heard great reviews about this lens! It can be had easily for under $100. Based on a zeiss design and gorgeous for portraits!
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Hey check out this guy's website. The Retro Way : My Other Photography

(Canon I know) but He's done ALOT of indepth real world testing of alot of foriegn lenses. Scroll down to the M42 stuff. HE's bought and tested like all the Russian Zeiss derivatives! Haha makes you think twice about glancing over those cheap industars eh?

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All the 85mm lenses from Pentax are killer glass, you can't be wrong to go with any of them. Of course, I like the FA*85 lens most and I would say it is a nearly perfect lens in every aspect, optically and for its built.

The 77mm Ltd is good for general purpose shooting, it's lighter and a good lens. But for seruous portrait shooting, I would still recommend the 85/1.4.

Forget about DA Limited primes, which I have not yet seen a lens which I would recommend anyone to acquire.
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QuoteOriginally posted by RiceHigh Quote
Forget about DA Limited primes, which I have not yet seen a lens which I would recommend anyone to acquire.
I have seen at least two:

DA 21/3.2
DA 70/2.4


Both top lenses. A joy to work with!
For example the autocus works much better in the DA 70 than in the FA 77.
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QuoteOriginally posted by blende8 Quote
I have seen at least two:

DA 21/3.2
DA 70/2.4


Both top lenses. A joy to work with!
For example the autocus works much better in the DA 70 than in the FA 77.
As for the AF accuracy, this user find that his DA 21 back focusing whilst the FA 77 is accurate:-

K10D AF adjustment: Pentax SLR Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review

For details of what these people are talking about in the thread and my subsequent explanations to the possible reasons on what people are wondering, see:-

RiceHigh's Pentax Blog: AF Accuracy's Dependency on Lenses and Yellow Light

As for the DA 70 Vs FA 77, the DA 70 has rougher bokeh, cool tone and CA which the original Limiteds never had.
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Am I the only one that uses Manual Focus in here? (Yes I have AF lenses)
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QuoteOriginally posted by RiceHigh Quote
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As for the DA 70 Vs FA 77, the DA 70 has rougher bokeh, cool tone and CA which the original Limiteds never had.
I agree abouth the bokeh (which of course never were perfect with the FA77 either) being marginally better for the FA77 compared to the DA70. Now bokeh is subjective but I think most agree about this when looking very close to pictures. In real life shooting the difference is small. The cool tone is a matter of taste and PP, I can't see that as a problem with either lens.

No CA with the original limiteds? Are you kidding?
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