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06-16-2008, 07:46 AM   #1
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Opinions on Super Takumar 200/f4

Hello, all,

I am considering looking for a Super Takumar 200/f4. I see there are two positive reviews in the database for the SMC/Super Takumar 200/f4. Are there any other opinions out there--especially in regard to the Super Takumar version?

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QuoteOriginally posted by zx-m Quote
Hello, all,

I am considering looking for a Super Takumar 200/f4. I see there are two positive reviews in the database for the SMC/Super Takumar 200/f4. Are there any other opinions out there--especially in regard to the Super Takumar version?

Thanks,
Glen
Well, I don't have the 200mm myself. I did have a SMC-M 200mm f/4 and I do have the 150mm Super Takumar and the S-M-C 300mm. All of them are super. I can't believe that the Super Takumar 200 would be worse then the SMC-M either. Of all S-M-C, SMC and Super takumar I have had at the same focals, they have pretty much all been the same.

Some pictures with my SMC-M 200mm f/4 can be found here, unedited straight from camera in raw (no sharpening etc). 6160215 - a set on Flickr
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I just received mine ... I haven't really put it through it's paces yet ... only took indoor evening shots (not easy) ... and with average lighting it came out better than I expected handheld.

I was lucky though ... the forum member I purchased my Super Tak 200/4 off added in a Vivitar x2 M42 Teleconverter with it ... could be interesting.
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I was lucky though ... the forum member I purchased my Super Tak 200/4 off added in a Vivitar x2 M42 Teleconverter with it ... could be interesting.
He added that for free, because thats whats its worth, qualitywise.

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It may be ... I havent tried it yet.

It's like the Pentax FAJ 75-300mm ... after reading from EVERYONE that it is only as good as a paperweight I was disappointed that I had one on order ... I still received it anyway .. and it took some really nice images.

So after having that sort of experience ... I am open-minded about all types of equipment ... I'll see how it goes and will post up later what it is like.
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I had a regular Super Takumar version (not S-M-C) that was stuck wide open at f/4 - even stuck wide open, it produced nice sharp shots. I liked it so much that I got a S-M-C version that was not broken

Here are some shots taken with it - I think the first one was wide open (f4):





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I thank all of you for the comments.

I, too, try to keep an open mind...and such is why I have posted this thread.

Any other views?

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Wide open on extension tubes on ESII:





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I should ban jsherman in some fashion, so i don't see images he posts, i kind of like those S-M-C 200/4 shots.....
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QuoteOriginally posted by zx-m Quote
Hello, all,

I am considering looking for a Super Takumar 200/f4. I see there are two positive reviews in the database for the SMC/Super Takumar 200/f4. Are there any other opinions out there--especially in regard to the Super Takumar version?

Thanks,
Glen
Why not look for a smc A 200mm F4?
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Why not look for a smc A 200mm F4?
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What's the difference with the A-version in IQ????
Or is it just the fact you can use auto aperture on the body???? with the extra cost.
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I know where one is for $165 and it is in excellent shape. I have been contemplating getting it myself but I have the smc A 400 f5.6 and I not sure how much I would use it. I currently use a 135mm f2.8 with a 2x for that range. I also know where 3 of the 200 m f4 are rated at E, for $69, 79 and 89.
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What's the difference with the A-version in IQ????
Or is it just the fact you can use auto aperture on the body???? with the extra cost.
The prices I've seen for the Super Tak's usually are more than the smc M 200 f4. I suspect that the only difference in the M and the A would be the auto aperture but I couldn't say between the Super Tak and A.

The K has 5 elements in 5 groups and weighs 537 g and is 137mm long, the M has 6 elements in 5, the 6 in 6 and the A and M both weigh 405 grams and come in at 111mm in length. Go here to check out the 5 200mm lenses Pentax Telephoto Prime Lenses

Now, the SMC A* 200 f2.8 ed or SMC A* 200 f4 with macro are another story regarding price and would like to get my hands on the macro one!

Edit: I guess I overlooked the K 200 f2.5. The 3 FA* and DA* lenses are on that list also.

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I went with the Super Takumar version for three reasons:

1. I was able to get an EX+ example from KEH for $89--with caps and hood.
2. I have heard that the Super Takumar's IQ is a tad better than that of later versions.
3. I have no real need for the "A" setting.

Regards,
Glen
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