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10-16-2015, 11:03 AM   #1
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16-50mm, 50-135mm, 60-250mm dilemma

I'm ordering a K3-II on Monday to replace my ageing K20 and the lens I was going to get with it was the 18-135mm. However, as it'll earn its crust by taking photos of car shows, stationary and fast moving 4x4's, I'm left with the dilemma of only being able to afford 1 'sports' lens with it.

Choices are 16-50mm, 50-135mm or the 60-250mm, obviously the latter isn't f2.8. I want a WR Pentax lens because I live in the north of England, and it rains a lot!

The problem is, I already have an older DA 55-300mm lens which is quite good at the action shots and covers the need to have both the 50-135mm and 60-250mm, so that leaves me with the 16-50mm. Reading elsewhere, it can be a bit unreliable and although it takes some stunning images, I can't seem to find any kind of action shots taken with it.

So I'm here scratching my head hoping for inspirational comments from you, the knowledgable collective.

Maybe I should just buy the 50-135mm and have the old 55-300mm for the long shots, but then the 16-50mm would be great for the close ups... dammit, I need help!

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I am under the impression that none of the 'older' SDM lenses (those you listed) have particularly fast autofocus. Maybe you can keep saving a bit and wait for the D FA* 70-200 f/2.8 AW?
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I can attest to the capability of the 16-50 in terms of delivering beautiful images but the autofocus on both the 50-135 and the 16-50 isn't the best. That's not to say it's bad, I've had acceptable performances shooting indoor sports in crappy light at close range, by all accounts a rigorous test of AF. But it definitely has plenty of room for improvement.

Both are stunning lenses when they do lock focus properly though.
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Fair point, just wonder how it would perform on the K3-II as opposed to a FF?

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QuoteOriginally posted by Damian.T Quote
I'm ordering a K3-II on Monday to replace my ageing K20 and the lens I was going to get with it was the 18-135mm. However, as it'll earn its crust by taking photos of car shows, stationary and fast moving 4x4's, I'm left with the dilemma of only being able to afford 1 'sports' lens with it.

Choices are 16-50mm, 50-135mm or the 60-250mm, obviously the latter isn't f2.8. I want a WR Pentax lens because I live in the north of England, and it rains a lot!

The problem is, I already have an older DA 55-300mm lens which is quite good at the action shots and covers the need to have both the 50-135mm and 60-250mm, so that leaves me with the 16-50mm. Reading elsewhere, it can be a bit unreliable and although it takes some stunning images, I can't seem to find any kind of action shots taken with it.

So I'm here scratching my head hoping for inspirational comments from you, the knowledgable collective.

Maybe I should just buy the 50-135mm and have the old 55-300mm for the long shots, but then the 16-50mm would be great for the close ups... dammit, I need help!
I'd recommend the 16-85mm over the 18-135mm. Its seems to be a much better lens.
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+3 for 16-85,overlap with the 55-300 is minimal and you've then got a great two lens (WR)combo which covers most eventualities.
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Since you are covered for general purpose long zoom by the 55-300, how about the DA* 200mm f2.8 prime? It is a very highly regarded fast lens with AW, and though not cheap, is probably about half the cost of the upcoming D FA 70-200. And although DA, the general consensus is that it's actually a FF lens in disguise.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Damian.T Quote
I'm ordering a K3-II on Monday to replace my ageing K20 and the lens I was going to get with it was the 18-135mm. However, as it'll earn its crust by taking photos of car shows, stationary and fast moving 4x4's, I'm left with the dilemma of only being able to afford 1 'sports' lens with it.

Choices are 16-50mm, 50-135mm or the 60-250mm, obviously the latter isn't f2.8. I want a WR Pentax lens because I live in the north of England, and it rains a lot!

The problem is, I already have an older DA 55-300mm lens which is quite good at the action shots and covers the need to have both the 50-135mm and 60-250mm, so that leaves me with the 16-50mm. Reading elsewhere, it can be a bit unreliable and although it takes some stunning images, I can't seem to find any kind of action shots taken with it.

So I'm here scratching my head hoping for inspirational comments from you, the knowledgable collective.

Maybe I should just buy the 50-135mm and have the old 55-300mm for the long shots, but then the 16-50mm would be great for the close ups... dammit, I need help!
The 60-250mm F4 is a real gem IMO. I would get it, the 16-50mm, and sell the consumer lens because you'll never look back.


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A Tarmon 17-50 ƒ2.8 and Tamron 70-200 ƒ2.8 would be the bargain basement way to go, and they are both excellent lenses.
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QuoteOriginally posted by timb64 Quote
+3 for 16-85,overlap with the 55-300 is minimal and you've then got a great two lens (WR) combo
OP may not have the WR version, viz:

QuoteOriginally posted by Damian.T Quote
Maybe I should just buy the 50-135mm and have the old 55-300mm for the long shots
QuoteOriginally posted by enoeske Quote
I'd recommend the 16-85mm over the 18-135mm. Its seems to be a much better lens.
Given the choice between 16-85 and 18-135 as my one and only wet-weather lens, and given that neither is faster than the other at the short and long ends, I decided I needed the extra 50mm at the long end more than the extra two at the wide, but the OP seems to have the long end covered well (he may want to upgrade the 55-300 to HD + WR as budget allows if he doesn't already have it), and for what he's doing, the extra FOV of the 16-85 at the short end is probably more useful.

Also: preliminary playing around indicates to me that the 18mm end of the 18-135 is by no means rectilinear at the edges at close distance, and this also needs to be borne in mind.
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50-135 is slower (focusing) than the 60-250 and the 60-250 isn't a speed daemon but if the 55-300 is acceptable I bet the 60-250 will be also (albeit with less reach). Another option is to wait (as mentioned above) for the 70-200 f/2.8 or look for an FA* 80-200 and a lenscoat wrap for it.

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What about the Tamron 28-75 f/2.8? It seems that many people like that lens too on APS.
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QuoteOriginally posted by 6BQ5 Quote
What about the Tamron 28-75 f/2.8? It seems that many people like that lens too on APS.
QuoteOriginally posted by Damian.T Quote
Choices are 16-50mm, 50-135mm or the 60-250mm, obviously the latter isn't f2.8. I want a WR Pentax lens because I live in the north of England, and it rains a lot!
Nice lens but not WR - that's one of the OP's criteria.
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50-135 is slower than the 60-250 and the 60-250 isn't a speed daemon
uhh? The 50-135mm is f2.8 .. 60-250mm f4

The 50-135 is one hell of a lens, superb IQ, prime like output


For this though, sports and zoom... you need to release the inner LBA daemon IMO

The new Pentax 150-450mm presents you with a massive beast and a costly one at that... but just look at the stuff posted on the forum, insane... you won't need to buy again

The 70-200mm Tamron would also seem a good choice, though not WR as mentioned
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The 50-135 is no sports lens. The autofocus might be the slowest of all my 30 lenses (except for the ones that don't auto focus). I'm thinking about disabling the motor and using the screw drive on my 50-135. That leaves the choice between the 16-50 and 60- 250. I can't believe how good my copy of the 60-250 is. It is a fantastic combo with both my K3 and K3ii which I use for wildlife.

Longer term the 150-450 might be a good option.
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