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06-25-2008, 06:00 PM   #16
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Caught you Jay! That cropped picture is from a different fountain picture!

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Maybe he cropped it. I would hope so because I wouldn't want to get that close to anything that could potentially sting me.

Heather

Actually, yes, that's a crop. Those bees were toughies.

Here's the uncropped original:

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Caught you Jay! That cropped picture is from a different fountain picture!
Yes! Didn't know that was against the rules! It's from the shot taken right after the previous one, from the same location, a couple seconds later. I liked the water droplets better in the subsequent shot. Just wanted to show the detail available due to the resolution of the lens. One of the first criteria I use to judge acceptable lens resolution is how typical crops look to me - not really down to the pixel-peeping level, but the level of a standard crop.

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QuoteOriginally posted by jsherman999 Quote
Actually, yes, that's a crop. Those bees were toughies.

Here's the uncropped original:
Still beautiful... thanks for clarifying the 'myth'...

I went the easier way out to test my DA35mm. Not sure about you guys, but I did have quite a difficult time trying not to have camera shake (actually my hands' shaking) when focusing at 1:1. The breeze didn't help as well... Here's an example which was NOT really well focus or sharp, but I just like the way it looked...



This is a tiny flower (1 - 1.5 cm in height) and taken handheld with whatever available light (in Singapore Botanical Gardens).

For me, the fact that the lens small enough not to add too much weight to a morning walk around, is already very much a bonus. Don't you think so?


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You can take such photos with any not bad zoom. To put ordinary macro lens from Tokina in metal is not enough to be LIMITED.
I really feel I'm deceived with this lens.

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You can take such photos with any not bad zoom. To put ordinary macro lens from Tokina in metal is not enough to be LIMITED.
.. 'the DA35mm Limited basher'.. Alright, I go test it out with my zooms on the same flower and see if it's like what you've said. I'll try the DA*s and see if I get the same result. It's likely I need to crop to get this close to the flowers (mine picture wasn't cropped), but we'll see.
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QuoteOriginally posted by ogl Quote
You can take such photos with any not bad zoom. To put ordinary macro lens from Tokina in metal is not enough to be LIMITED.
I really feel I'm deceived with this lens.
Wow ogl...IMHO you spend way too much time voicing your opinion on this. We all get it. There are larger tragedies in life than to be deceived by a lens.

Incidentally, the tokina AT-X 90/2.5 dubbed the "bokina" by some is well sought after, and said to be incredibly sharp with outstanding bokeh. Maybe a re-badged tokina is something we should be proud to have in our arsenal.
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You can take such photos with any not bad zoom. To put ordinary macro lens from Tokina in metal is not enough to be LIMITED.
I really feel I'm deceived with this lens.

Well, I can tell you definitively that I can't get that sharpness/bokeh from 1) DA*
16-50 2.8, 2) DA* 50-135 2.8, 3) Tamron 18-250, 4) Tamron 70-300 LD Di,
5) Tamron 28-75 f/2.8, all of which I own or have owned.

The 18-250 is very decent, The DA*'s are excellent, and the Tamron 28-75 &
70-300 have very good close-focus capability.... But they aren't true macro
lenses. They can't reach that level of sharpness, and their bokeh is inferior to the
DA 35. (the 28-75's bokeh is pretty good, though.)

If you can consistently get those kind of results from 'any not bad zoom', though,
maybe you're just a better photographer than me - but I sure can't manage it.


PS: Bernard, excellent shot, truly. Kinda makes my point about the bokeh right there

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PS: Bernard, excellent shot, truly. Kinda makes my point about the bokeh right there

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Thanks! Very MUCH appreciated.. I wasn't confident enough to put it across with conviction because I am pretty much a newbie ... And of course, I have not used any other systems but Pentax.

I have not seen bokeh like this from any of the zooms I had/have (DA*16-50, DA*50-135, FA24-90, Tamron 17-50, Sigma 24-135, DA 18-250). But, of course, what do I know...

OK, maybe there are other Macros that could do just this (like the A50mm, FA100 f.28 macros) ... but there's only 1 DA 35 Limited!

Anyways, it's all about individuals' choices, and in this thread.. we are just talking about why ppl likes THE DA35mm Limited (with Pictures)!
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You can take such photos with any not bad zoom. To put ordinary macro lens from Tokina in metal is not enough to be LIMITED.
I really feel I'm deceived with this lens.
We get the point - you feel cheated. I bought a Chrysler Newport years ago that was a lemon form the get-go. Yeah, I squawked about it for a while but got tired of hearing my own voice, so I did something about it - I sold it and that ended the bitchin'.

My humble advise - sell the lens you don't like ; buy the one you do like and go take some beautiful pictures.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Bernard Yeo Quote
Still beautiful... thanks for clarifying the 'myth'...

I went the easier way out to test my DA35mm. Not sure about you guys, but I did have quite a difficult time trying not to have camera shake (actually my hands' shaking) when focusing at 1:1. The breeze didn't help as well... Here's an example which was NOT really well focus or sharp, but I just like the way it looked...



This is a tiny flower (1 - 1.5 cm in height) and taken handheld with whatever available light (in Singapore Botanical Gardens).

For me, the fact that the lens small enough not to add too much weight to a morning walk around, is already very much a bonus. Don't you think so?
I love it! Don't change a thing! It is a beautiful picture.
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very nice pictures! now this has me thinking... 16-50 or 35 macro??? I just bought the 50-135, and am now saving up for the 16-50... now I dunno if I should get the 35mm first!
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Some spectacular shots you've got there. I really like.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Bernard Yeo Quote
Here's an example which was NOT really well focus or sharp, but I just like the way it looked...
Sometimes you need a shot to not work in order for it to be special, don't you think?

You have a wonderful photograph here, and I bet it would look beautiful printed at 12x18 mounted in a black frame...hanging from my wall!
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Sometimes you need a shot to not work in order for it to be special, don't you think?

You have a wonderful photograph here, and I bet it would look beautiful printed at 12x18 mounted in a black frame...hanging from my wall!
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I love it! Don't change a thing! It is a beautiful picture.
Guys, these words of encouragement really meant so much. THANK YOU!
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