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12-19-2015, 10:46 PM   #16
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I just took a couple of shots with my friend's D7000 with a hefty lens on it, a stretch normal f/2.8. It did NOT feel cheap, and felt just fine. My K3 is smaller, lighter and is weather resistant with the DA* 16-50 on it and takes just as nice pictures. I took the shots so that he could be in a group shot without using the self timer. The only "control" on it that I would have to be very careful of is the lens mount that locks in the opposite direction to mine. Nothing like dropping a lens to make my day.

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I'm sure the 24-70 is intended as a FF kit lens, and will be better priced in the bundle, especially after 6 months or so. I'll wait and see.
12-20-2015, 01:53 AM   #18
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QuoteOriginally posted by Paul the Sunman Quote
I'm sure the 24-70 is intended as a FF kit lens
I'd be surprised, Paul, this isn't an f5.6, it's the real deal!
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I'm very interested in this lens. But first priority is saving money to buy the DFA150-450.

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QuoteOriginally posted by clackers Quote
I'd be surprised, Paul, this isn't an f5.6, it's the real deal!
Indeed. But the K1 FF won't be a "consumer DSLR"; the whole system will be up market. The D FA 24-70 strikes me as the ideal first lens for K1 adopters who don't have any pre-existing FF lenses. There may be a cheaper kit option (the D FA 28-110 on the lens roadmap), but I think the 24-70 will be the one that's more likely to attract the serious user.
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I likely won't be considering it unless at some time I go to a FF body. The bulk of my photography is outdoor sports and some bird/wildlife shots, all with long lenses, and aps-c gives me a bit of advantage. My Sigma 17-70 is my go to lens for everyday use. 24-70 is a great size for FF, not as useful for our current cameras. I may at some time own a FF but I will still need an aps-c sized body for much of what I do.
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Also, the main reason for me not getting it is probably that I don't believe in buying something just because it's been released and because it's high-end. That is backwards reasoning to me. If, at a future point in time, for some reason, I want a lens in this class, then maybe I'll buy it, and maybe I won't. But I have no such need right now. The need to get a new lens is a much better reason to get it than the fact that it is introduced, even if other people drool all over that lens.
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QuoteOriginally posted by normhead Quote
I'm not planning to pick it up either. It's an FF lens. The reasons I won't go with the Pentax would be the same reasons I didn't go for a Nikon D810. I need a $10k investment just to be happy. 24-70 doesn't really make sense on APS-c.
This ^^

Plus, I seem to have invested a significant portion of my reserved K-1 budget in the sudden supply of legacy FF lenses. That's some sort of a conundrum.

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So some of you don't believe in a bundled version of this lens?
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QuoteOriginally posted by zeitlos Quote
So some of you don't believe in a bundled version of this lens?
I dont, body only, body+grip or body+24/28-105/135 f4 no constant or above to "kit" lens, maybe a bundle version from stores with the 24-70, but no a package from Ricoh directly
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I'll buy it probably next week.. Already sold my Tamron 17-50 f2.8, and sold my Sigma 30mm f1.4 Art to give some space. I was doing a "research" of this lens and see if the price might come down, but as we all know this is an almost twin lens of the Tamron version (with some improvements), and looking at the Canikons Tamron version prices the price havent come down after a long time, so i dont really think that this lens price might come down in a while, specially after the FF is out, many people will start looking for this lens lenght.

This is the only lens that im missing for the kind of shooting that i do before buying the FF, so i'll cover from 24 to 200 with some primes in the middle ( 24-70 / 70-200mm / 50mm and 85mm ).

For a person that is not planning to move to FF it might be such a smart move to buy this, but for all of the people that will move to FF the next year this is a most have.

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A lot depends on focal lengths that you like to shoot. There are a lot of people who shoot the Tamron 28-75 f2.8 on APS-C as it is and are quite pleased with it. However on APS-C, 28mm is pretty long as the widest angle on your walk around zoom, but 24mm might be livable.

I think the biggest thing about this lens is that it hasn't been out very long and there aren't many good examples of decent photos taken with it. As those come out (and the full frame camera is released), LBA will stir in the hearts of plenty of Pentaxians and they will throw over their current Sigma/Tamron/Pentax 28-7x lenses and try this one. Because it doesn't really come down to how good a lens is, or even if you need it, it just comes down to a desire to try something that you don't have...
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I'd like to buy this lens one day but that day is not coming soon. FF needs to be released and the early-adopter price will need to fall significantly first. Then let me see how much current FA lenses work on the new FF body. Maybe it will be enough to keep me happy for a while. By then the lens may be cheaper too.

No rush ...
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QuoteOriginally posted by Rondec Quote
it just comes down to a desire to try something that you don't have..
So true Over the past 3 years I've purchased and sold at least a dozen lenses so that I could determine what I liked and didn't like. Boy that was a lot of fun. Now that I've got a stable set of lenses that I do like things have been quiet. Although I am contemplating a nice wide angle fish eye lens like the DA 10-17. I just don't have a reason to use it yet, but if we vacation out West this year I'm sure I'll NEED it
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After reading this thread, i'm curious - what does a FF offer that a K-3 (ii) can't satisfy in your photography? Lowlight? DOF?
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