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12-22-2015, 09:57 AM   #31
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That is some pretty amazing whisky!

QuoteOriginally posted by pinholecam Quote
50mm on FF can be very versatile too on FF.
The 85 is good on ff.


EDIT and looked at it. You use the A7. I'm looking into this also combined with the Batis 85mm/f1.8


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12-22-2015, 01:12 PM   #32
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Hopefully the FA77 1.8 will perform well (or even better) on FF too and eventually match high expectations.

Since all people here applaud the FA85 1.4 I'm inclined to think that I might be on the wrong track seeing the FA77 1.8 as a gem for portrait photography, even on the upcoming FF-Pentax...

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QuoteOriginally posted by zeitlos Quote
Hopefully the FA77 1.8 will perform well (or even better) on FF too and eventually match high expectations.

Since all people here applaud the FA85 1.4 I'm inclined to think that I might be on the wrong track seeing the FA77 1.8 as a gem for portrait photography, even on the upcoming FF-Pentax...
The FA77 is one of the greatest lenses ever made, it render beautifully and make fine portraiture. It make subject pop like no other. It has been selected as the best Pentax lens of all time on this forum, it is full of character.

The FA*85 is really fine too, and if you see some people will prefer one, some the other. One thing is sure it is much bigger; heavier with huge hood and intimidating to your subject.

And that's only 1 lens, likely you'll want to have more in the bag and you'll soon discover than wandering arround with 3 f/1.4 lenses (35,50 and 85) from say sigma/samyang or zeiss look fine but is a pain in the ass from a practical point of view... Big, bulky, Intrusive to your subject, eat all your bag real estate... Take the FA31, FA43 and FA77 instead, you'll not give up quality or character, all the contrary, but you'll give up weight/bulkiness, able to walk arround with far smaller bag or to put in more that you need (flashes, zooms...).

In the end what will be more important is to get the right light, get the right framing, the right mood on your subject, the right moment. Smaller/ligher lenses can help much more on this result than one might think. It give you comfort, reactivity, help you and the subject forget the gear is here...

Conveniance is really key otherwise you'd have brought a MF film camera with the associated MF portrait lense for even better result. But you don't do it because well, film is not practical.

EDIT: Another point looking at the reviews of FA*85, yes this lens is outstanding for portraiture... But not that great focussing to infinite apparrently an issues the other lenses don't have. Pentax made the FA*85 very specialized.

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12-22-2015, 11:24 PM   #34
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QuoteOriginally posted by jonlg Quote
Actually just bought a D FA 100mm F2.8 which should arrive this week so will give it a try, although I wondered if the focal length will simply be too long especially on APSC. You've certainly given me pause for thought!

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This is long on APSC, especially indoor, but should be no big issue outdoor and quite useful in some circonstances. On FF it would be fine. You could compliment it with another lens in the 50-70mm for tight environements, especially for APSC.

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12-23-2015, 04:10 AM   #36
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QuoteOriginally posted by RonHendriks1966 Quote
That is some pretty amazing whisky!
Well Ron, you may have to drive only an hour north to reach whisky heaven where it is available. Before I became teetotal, I used to regularly get mine at the Slijterij Van Wees in Amersfoort. I am 99.9% sure they have it. But be sure they wont trade your A50 for it though.

Whatever has been said so far, it is true that 77-43Ltd duo are no lightweights in the domain of portraits. You can buy them both (used) for the price of a FA*85, which is really a worthwhile trade-off.
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QuoteOriginally posted by jpzk Quote
Originally posted by zzeitg There are more options if you don't insist on AF... - A* 135 f1.8- M 85 f2- Sigma 85 f1.4- Samyang 85 f1.4- Samyang 135 f2- Tokina 90 f2.5- Helios-40 85 f1.5- Jupiter-9 85 f2- CZ 85 f1.4- CZ 100 f2- Porst 135 f1.8- Soligor 100 f2- Soligor 135 f1.8 Most of them with very nice bokeh. Add to that: Zeiss T*Planar 85/1.4 ZK ... pricey, big but a real pearl!

Two more aspirants...


Komura 80 f1.8
CZ Pancolar 80 f1.8


Too many options...
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