DA 50/1.8 or DA35/2.4 or ?

**UncleVanya** · 01-05-2016, 09:12 PM

Originally posted by bertwert

Okay, I was just wondering if I missed anything other than the 17-70, 17-50 and 16-45 that would fall in my budget used. And those are on the upper end of the budget...
So nope to that idea

That list isn't comprehensive. There may be other bargains that drop in from time to time. I waited 6 months until my DA 40 fell in my lap at $175 which at the time was about 50-75 less than the going rate used.

Watch prices and auctions and wait; watch craigslist; you may get lucky - you could also get burned. The other route is to develop your stitching/pano skills and shoot with a good tripod and head in vertical orientation and get some nice landscapes that way. It isn't easy and it isn't quick but it does have the advantage of cost over the really wide lenses - additionally the resulting files are huge and densely detailed.

bertwert · 01-05-2016, 09:13 PM

Originally posted by UncleVanya

The other route is to develop your stitching/pano skills and shoot with a good tripod and head in vertical orientation and get some nice landscapes that way. It isn't easy and it isn't quick but it does have the advantage of cost over the really wide lenses - additionally the resulting files are huge and densely detailed.

Never done that yet, but will do one day.

**UncleVanya** · 01-05-2016, 09:15 PM

Originally posted by bertwert

Never done that yet, but will do one day.

https://photographylife.com/advanced-photography-techniques-brenizer-method-panorama

pathdoc · 01-06-2016, 09:02 AM

From the article:

Quote:

while Brenizer method does wonders with portraits, it can be used in numerous other situations whenever you feel like you need wide angle of view and shallow depth of field.

Applications seem IMHO to be limited to those in which a discrete foreground subject dominates the image.

Reliable profiles for de-vignetting and distortion correction, either in-camera or in post, would also appear to be a must.

**UncleVanya** · 01-06-2016, 10:13 PM

Originally posted by pathdoc

From the article:

Applications seem IMHO to be limited to those in which a discrete foreground subject dominates the image.

Reliable profiles for de-vignetting and distortion correction, either in-camera or in post, would also appear to be a must.

Sure - that is just one method of wide angle stitching. Just shooting the scene vertically on a panning head and stitching with Microsoft ice is another easier way.

bertwert · 01-08-2016, 01:44 PM

I'm almost at the 'Buy Now' for the DA 40 XS.
I loved the FL just going for a walk now.
But my mind says to save up for a nicer lens...

**pres589** · 01-08-2016, 02:05 PM

Originally posted by bertwert

I'm almost at the 'Buy Now' for the DA 40 XS.
I loved the FL just going for a walk now.
But my mind says to save up for a nicer lens...

How much for the XS? I'm considering one for filling a space in my kit that is currently covered only by the 18-135 zoom that I've got. I plan on using a step-up ring and a small 37mm vented hood and a UV filter.

bertwert · 01-08-2016, 02:07 PM

Originally posted by pres589

How much for the XS? I'm considering one for filling a space in my kit that is currently covered only by the 18-135 zoom that I've got. I plan on using a step-up ring and a small 37mm vented hood and a UV filter.

There was one on the marketplace in Canada for around 150 CAD, some in Europe for 130 EUR I believe.
230 USD new at BH.

If you buy the one in Canada, that will help me so I can't buy it

**luftfluss** · 01-08-2016, 02:10 PM

Originally posted by bertwert

I'm almost at the 'Buy Now' for the DA 40 XS.
I loved the FL just going for a walk now.
But my mind says to save up for a nicer lens...

DA35 Macro?

bertwert · 01-08-2016, 02:12 PM

Originally posted by luftfluss

DA35 Macro?

Yes, or maybe 15 Ltd or WR 100 Macro.
Or DA* 60-250 / DA* 300 if I really save up...

**luftfluss** · 01-08-2016, 02:20 PM

Originally posted by bertwert

Yes, or maybe 15 Ltd or WR 100 Macro.
Or DA* 60-250 / DA* 300 if I really save up...

I just guessed, since you've been considering in the 35-50 range.

What kind of macro interests you?

bertwert · 01-08-2016, 02:28 PM

Originally posted by luftfluss

since you've been considering in the 35-50 range

I consider DA 35 and DA 50 for their price
14 year olds can't afford much

Originally posted by luftfluss

What kind of macro interests you?

Bugs and flowers and anything...
Also like macro in the rain, which why I would prefer the 100 for WR and also the longer working distance.

Other photography I like:
Wildlife, Landscapes, Macro.
Pretty much anything to do with nature.

**luftfluss** · 01-08-2016, 02:50 PM

Originally posted by bertwert

I consider DA 35 and DA 50 for their price
14 year olds can't afford much

Bugs and flowers and anything...
Also like macro in the rain, which why I would prefer the 100 for WR and also the longer working distance.

Other photography I like:
Wildlife, Landscapes, Macro.
Pretty much anything to do with nature.

I found the DA15 to be difficult to use. I think my general locale is not conducive to UWA shooting. But you live in a more beautiful area. Just keep in mind that the DA15 is specialized.

It really sounds like the 100 Macro WR is for you, pricey though it is.

For larger macro subject matter - spiders, butterflies, dragonflies, etc. - you may want to consider a Tamron or Sigma 70-300 Macro, if you can find one cheap. I've owned several copies of the Tamron version, and it's capable of really good image quality. I've bought and sold a number of them over the years, looking for "better", but really the combination of image quality and working distance (3m) hits the sweet spot for me when shooting some larger insects. My current Tamron 70-300 I bought for $50/shipped as part of a 2-lens lot. If you can find one cheap it's worth getting, and loads of fun.

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01-05-2016, 09:12 PM	#76
UncleVanya Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2014 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,459	Originally posted by bertwert Okay, I was just wondering if I missed anything other than the 17-70, 17-50 and 16-45 that would fall in my budget used. And those are on the upper end of the budget... So nope to that idea That list isn't comprehensive. There may be other bargains that drop in from time to time. I waited 6 months until my DA 40 fell in my lap at $175 which at the time was about 50-75 less than the going rate used. Watch prices and auctions and wait; watch craigslist; you may get lucky - you could also get burned. The other route is to develop your stitching/pano skills and shoot with a good tripod and head in vertical orientation and get some nice landscapes that way. It isn't easy and it isn't quick but it does have the advantage of cost over the really wide lenses - additionally the resulting files are huge and densely detailed.

01-05-2016, 09:13 PM	#77
bertwert Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Golden, BC Posts: 15,172 Original Poster	Originally posted by UncleVanya The other route is to develop your stitching/pano skills and shoot with a good tripod and head in vertical orientation and get some nice landscapes that way. It isn't easy and it isn't quick but it does have the advantage of cost over the really wide lenses - additionally the resulting files are huge and densely detailed. Never done that yet, but will do one day.

01-05-2016, 09:15 PM	#78
UncleVanya Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2014 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,459	Originally posted by bertwert Never done that yet, but will do one day. https://photographylife.com/advanced-photography-techniques-brenizer-method-panorama

01-06-2016, 09:02 AM	#79
pathdoc Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2015 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,381	From the article: Quote: while Brenizer method does wonders with portraits, it can be used in numerous other situations whenever you feel like you need wide angle of view and shallow depth of field. Applications seem IMHO to be limited to those in which a discrete foreground subject dominates the image. Reliable profiles for de-vignetting and distortion correction, either in-camera or in post, would also appear to be a must.

01-06-2016, 10:13 PM	#80
UncleVanya Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2014 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,459	Originally posted by pathdoc From the article: Applications seem IMHO to be limited to those in which a discrete foreground subject dominates the image. Reliable profiles for de-vignetting and distortion correction, either in-camera or in post, would also appear to be a must. Sure - that is just one method of wide angle stitching. Just shooting the scene vertically on a panning head and stitching with Microsoft ice is another easier way.

01-08-2016, 01:44 PM	#81
bertwert Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Golden, BC Posts: 15,172 Original Poster	I'm almost at the 'Buy Now' for the DA 40 XS. I loved the FL just going for a walk now. But my mind says to save up for a nicer lens...

01-08-2016, 02:05 PM	#82
pres589 Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Wichita, KS Photos: Albums Posts: 4,533	Originally posted by bertwert I'm almost at the 'Buy Now' for the DA 40 XS. I loved the FL just going for a walk now. But my mind says to save up for a nicer lens... How much for the XS? I'm considering one for filling a space in my kit that is currently covered only by the 18-135 zoom that I've got. I plan on using a step-up ring and a small 37mm vented hood and a UV filter.

01-08-2016, 02:07 PM	#83
bertwert Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Golden, BC Posts: 15,172 Original Poster	Originally posted by pres589 How much for the XS? I'm considering one for filling a space in my kit that is currently covered only by the 18-135 zoom that I've got. I plan on using a step-up ring and a small 37mm vented hood and a UV filter. There was one on the marketplace in Canada for around 150 CAD, some in Europe for 130 EUR I believe. 230 USD new at BH. If you buy the one in Canada, that will help me so I can't buy it

01-08-2016, 02:10 PM	#84
luftfluss Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: NJ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,627	Originally posted by bertwert I'm almost at the 'Buy Now' for the DA 40 XS. I loved the FL just going for a walk now. But my mind says to save up for a nicer lens... DA35 Macro?

01-08-2016, 02:12 PM	#85
bertwert Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Golden, BC Posts: 15,172 Original Poster	Originally posted by luftfluss DA35 Macro? Yes, or maybe 15 Ltd or WR 100 Macro. Or DA* 60-250 / DA* 300 if I really save up...

01-08-2016, 02:20 PM	#86
luftfluss Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: NJ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,627	Originally posted by bertwert Yes, or maybe 15 Ltd or WR 100 Macro. Or DA* 60-250 / DA* 300 if I really save up... I just guessed, since you've been considering in the 35-50 range. What kind of macro interests you?

01-08-2016, 02:28 PM	#87
bertwert Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Golden, BC Posts: 15,172 Original Poster	Originally posted by luftfluss since you've been considering in the 35-50 range I consider DA 35 and DA 50 for their price 14 year olds can't afford much Originally posted by luftfluss What kind of macro interests you? Bugs and flowers and anything... Also like macro in the rain, which why I would prefer the 100 for WR and also the longer working distance. Other photography I like: Wildlife, Landscapes, Macro. Pretty much anything to do with nature.

01-08-2016, 02:50 PM	#88
luftfluss Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: NJ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,627	Originally posted by bertwert I consider DA 35 and DA 50 for their price 14 year olds can't afford much Bugs and flowers and anything... Also like macro in the rain, which why I would prefer the 100 for WR and also the longer working distance. Other photography I like: Wildlife, Landscapes, Macro. Pretty much anything to do with nature. I found the DA15 to be difficult to use. I think my general locale is not conducive to UWA shooting. But you live in a more beautiful area. Just keep in mind that the DA15 is specialized. It really sounds like the 100 Macro WR is for you, pricey though it is. For larger macro subject matter - spiders, butterflies, dragonflies, etc. - you may want to consider a Tamron or Sigma 70-300 Macro, if you can find one cheap. I've owned several copies of the Tamron version, and it's capable of really good image quality. I've bought and sold a number of them over the years, looking for "better", but really the combination of image quality and working distance (3m) hits the sweet spot for me when shooting some larger insects. My current Tamron 70-300 I bought for $50/shipped as part of a 2-lens lot. If you can find one cheap it's worth getting, and loads of fun.