Bokeh Masters - samples, notes, suggestions?

the swede · 11-10-2009, 10:06 AM

Originally posted by Ponisch

Sony A700 + Tammy 90/2.8

Ponisch! Nice to see you here. As always, great pictures from you!

Revuenon 55 mm 1,2

Dont know what to say about this lens. Its very usefull and makes good things in avalible light situations.

1/320 f1,2 ISO-100

1/250 f1,2 ISO-100

1/200 f1,2 ISO-100

1/400 f1,2 ISO-100

1/320 f1,2 ISO-100

Last edited by the swede; 11-10-2009 at 10:14 AM.

georgweb · 11-10-2009, 04:05 PM

Hey Swede, looks like you have fun with the Revuenon, great! I had the best experiences at f/2 as a very nice compromise, but I'm no macro guy anyway.

Originally posted by knyghtfall

Thanks George.

For your shot, I'm guessing its slightly stopped down, and the aperture of that lens is elliptical, which is why the backlight bokeh is such an interesting shape?

Have just gotten the voigtlander 20mm as well, ...

Hey knyghtfall,
I envy your Voigtländers, but maybe some day ...
Comes to mind I actually have an M42 Voigtländer Color Ultron 1.8/50, but that's just a Planar copy (a brutal razor, horses for courses...)

About the Trioplan, it's not stopped down, and it won't do funny things with the aperture shape anyway cause it has the very old school preset aperture - multi-blades equally turned by hand, no springs involved. The elliptical shapes come from distortion getting larger towards the edge. In Abbazz's post here he says optical vignetting is the name for it. He also quotes astigmatism as the source of swirly bokeh. AFAIK astigmatism is also responsible to those rings and crosses on the Trioplan highlights. All in all a very bad lens :-)

Revuenon (a.k.a. Cosina) 1.2/55 @f/1.2 - typical coma wings on the upper edge. Hey that's not bokeh .-)

Abbazz · 11-10-2009, 05:38 PM

Originally posted by georgweb

Revuenon (a.k.a. Cosina) 1.2/55 @f/1.2 - typical coma wings on the upper edge. Hey that's not bokeh .-)

Definitely a stunning picture, georgweb.

Cheers!

Abbazz

georgweb · 11-11-2009, 02:35 AM

Originally posted by Abbazz

Definitely a stunning picture, georgweb.
Cheers!
Abbazz

Thank you Abbazz. I remember what you did with the Porst 55/1.2 - why not bring on some more here?
Best, Georg (the other)

hs57 · 11-11-2009, 02:51 AM

My personal Bokeh Master is the
" Vivitar Series 1 105mm f2.5 Macro" Lens.
It is a lovely MF macro Lens with
finest optical and mechanical quality.
Some Samples with the Pentax K200D and the
Vivitar Series 1 105mm f2.5 Macro:

Regards,
Hartmut from Germany

mer · 11-11-2009, 03:49 AM

i really like the porst 55 f/1.2 wide open , this one on fuji velvia 50

Abbazz · 11-11-2009, 04:51 AM

Originally posted by mer

i really like the porst 55 f/1.2 wide open , this one on fuji velvia 50

Great joyful capture! It is heartwarming to see pictures taken with film from time to time...

Cheers!

Abbazz

Piotr · 12-05-2009, 02:20 PM

It is Bokeh Master without any doubts.

Pentax PENTAX K20D,Vivitar 90 mm f/2.5 Macro
1/250s f2.5 90.0mm iso200

Pentax PENTAX K20D,Vivitar 90 mm f/2.5 Macro
1/80s f/2.5 at 90.0mm iso200

Michele · 12-05-2009, 02:48 PM

Hello Junks,

Pentax SMC-M 1,4/50 f1,4 1/125 ISO100

BW

M;chele

fourmiX · 12-06-2009, 02:57 AM

awesome pictures guys !

xjjohnno · 12-06-2009, 03:10 AM

SMC Pentax K 50 f1.2
[IMGWIDELEFT]http://www.xjgarage.org/photos/qvmarket3/slides/PICT0487.JPG[/IMGWIDELEFT]

blende8 · 12-06-2009, 07:24 AM

Looking through this thread, one thing is clear:
The bokeh master is not the lens, but the photographer!
Well done guys!

Termik · 12-06-2009, 08:49 AM

The FA*85 works for me!

Termik · 12-06-2009, 09:38 AM

...and the FA31!

switch · 12-06-2009, 10:20 AM

My two favorite bokeh-shot:
DA55-300

11-10-2009, 04:05 PM	#182
georgweb Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Berlin, Germany Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,386	Hey Swede, looks like you have fun with the Revuenon, great! I had the best experiences at f/2 as a very nice compromise, but I'm no macro guy anyway. Originally posted by knyghtfall Thanks George. For your shot, I'm guessing its slightly stopped down, and the aperture of that lens is elliptical, which is why the backlight bokeh is such an interesting shape? Have just gotten the voigtlander 20mm as well, ... Hey knyghtfall, I envy your Voigtländers, but maybe some day ... Comes to mind I actually have an M42 Voigtländer Color Ultron 1.8/50, but that's just a Planar copy (a brutal razor, horses for courses...) About the Trioplan, it's not stopped down, and it won't do funny things with the aperture shape anyway cause it has the very old school preset aperture - multi-blades equally turned by hand, no springs involved. The elliptical shapes come from distortion getting larger towards the edge. In Abbazz's post here he says optical vignetting is the name for it. He also quotes astigmatism as the source of swirly bokeh. AFAIK astigmatism is also responsible to those rings and crosses on the Trioplan highlights. All in all a very bad lens :-) Revuenon (a.k.a. Cosina) 1.2/55 @f/1.2 - typical coma wings on the upper edge. Hey that's not bokeh .-) Last edited by georgweb; 11-10-2009 at 04:19 PM.

11-11-2009, 02:51 AM	#185
hs57 Inactive Account Join Date: May 2009 Location: Germany Photos: Gallery Posts: 69	Bokeh Masters - samples My personal Bokeh Master is the " Vivitar Series 1 105mm f2.5 Macro" Lens. It is a lovely MF macro Lens with finest optical and mechanical quality. Some Samples with the Pentax K200D and the Vivitar Series 1 105mm f2.5 Macro: Regards, Hartmut from Germany Last edited by hs57; 11-11-2009 at 04:32 AM.

12-05-2009, 02:20 PM	#188
Piotr Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Warsaw Photos: Gallery Posts: 338	Vivitar Series 1 90 mm f/2.5 Macro It is Bokeh Master without any doubts. Pentax PENTAX K20D,Vivitar 90 mm f/2.5 Macro 1/250s f2.5 90.0mm iso200 Pentax PENTAX K20D,Vivitar 90 mm f/2.5 Macro 1/80s f/2.5 at 90.0mm iso200

12-06-2009, 03:10 AM	#191
xjjohnno Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Melbourne Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,115	SMC Pentax K 50 f1.2 [IMGWIDELEFT]http://www.xjgarage.org/photos/qvmarket3/slides/PICT0487.JPG[/IMGWIDELEFT] Last edited by J.Scott; 12-06-2009 at 06:25 AM. Reason: spellign eror

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11-10-2009, 10:06 AM	#181
the swede Inactive Account Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 2,310	Originally posted by Ponisch Sony A700 + Tammy 90/2.8 Ponisch! Nice to see you here. As always, great pictures from you! Revuenon 55 mm 1,2 Dont know what to say about this lens. Its very usefull and makes good things in avalible light situations. 1/320 f1,2 ISO-100 1/250 f1,2 ISO-100 1/200 f1,2 ISO-100 1/400 f1,2 ISO-100 1/320 f1,2 ISO-100 Last edited by the swede; 11-10-2009 at 10:14 AM.

11-10-2009, 05:38 PM	#183
Abbazz Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Jakarta Posts: 667	Originally posted by georgweb Revuenon (a.k.a. Cosina) 1.2/55 @f/1.2 - typical coma wings on the upper edge. Hey that's not bokeh .-) Definitely a stunning picture, georgweb. Cheers! Abbazz

11-11-2009, 02:35 AM	#184
georgweb Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Berlin, Germany Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,386	Originally posted by Abbazz Definitely a stunning picture, georgweb. Cheers! Abbazz Thank you Abbazz. I remember what you did with the Porst 55/1.2 - why not bring on some more here? Best, Georg (the other)

11-11-2009, 03:49 AM	#186
mer Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Greece Posts: 237	i really like the porst 55 f/1.2 wide open , this one on fuji velvia 50

11-11-2009, 04:51 AM	#187
Abbazz Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Jakarta Posts: 667	Originally posted by mer i really like the porst 55 f/1.2 wide open , this one on fuji velvia 50 Great joyful capture! It is heartwarming to see pictures taken with film from time to time... Cheers! Abbazz

12-06-2009, 02:57 AM	#190
fourmiX Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: France Photos: Gallery Posts: 140	awesome pictures guys !

12-06-2009, 07:24 AM	#192
blende8 Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Bremen, Germany Photos: Albums Posts: 1,521	Looking through this thread, one thing is clear: The bokeh master is not the lens, but the photographer! Well done guys!

12-06-2009, 10:20 AM	#195
switch Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Hungary Photos: Gallery Posts: 26	My two favorite bokeh-shot: DA55-300