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07-06-2008, 05:57 PM   #1
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FA 50/1.4 vs FA 77 ltd

I'm interested to know users' opinions on what makes the 77 ltd so great considering the much more affordable yet very sharp and contrasty 50/1.4.

Is it the extra focal length, the bokeh, better IQ?
TIA again for your input...

07-06-2008, 07:30 PM   #2
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Hard to compare these two I guess. The FA50/1.4 is value for money, one of the best 50mm lenses. But the FA77 is exceptional, one of the best lenses ever made. The FA77 is much better built w/ full metal lens barrel, optically it's better too (imo). I don't see any reason (except cost) at all that you can't have both due to the different focal length.
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Frank nailed it! You need both!
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All I can say is that I have the 77 ltd. and love it.

... and Mr. Kitty loves it too... because it means that I'm further away

I think the only things done were slight exposure and slight crop.

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50mm are amongst the cheapest lenses to make. as you deviate further from 50mm, you'll find the lens get more and more expensive
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I found the color is different from FA50 and FA77, FA77 actually give me nicer skin tone
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Hi,

I am lucky that I own both. The build quality of the 77 is better, but the 50 is also a very fine lens. What makes the 77 stand out imo is the exceptional rendering and sharpnes. If you haven't seen it, it's hard to believe.

I like the 77 so much, I want the FA 43 limited too (anyone having one for sale perhaps...?)

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Humm if the 77 is too much what about the 70mm?

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How would you guys rate it wide open for sharpness?
Photodo have not yet released MTF data on the 77 ltd...
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This is actually an astute question - the FA 50 1.4 could be used in a lot of
situations where you'd use the 77ltd if you didn't have one (portraiture, low light
shooting, bokeh/DOF flora wizardry, etc.)

I think I read somewhere how the design of the K/M/FA 50 1.4 is actually very
similar to that of the 77ltd, and the 50 1.4 is kinda like it's little brother. I'll try
to find where I read that. EDIT: This is a very interesting overview of the 77 + 85 + 50 1.4 family resemblance.

Anyway, you can think of the 77ltd as a 50 1.4, only more so. It's sharper at the
higher apertures, especially in the center, and I think it's edge sharpness is better
at most apertures also. The 50 1.4 can get very, very sharp in the center at f/4+,
but the 77ltd can make you bleed at f/4+.

Specular highlights on the 77 are superior, but IMO the bokeh is equal between
the two.

If you can't afford the 77 right now, definitely get the 50 - it's a truly wonderful
lens also.

Re the sharpness wide open question - the following were shot wide open, I'll
see if I can run across a few other better examples:






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Yep,
razor sharp with ultra-thin DOF!

Thanks for the info.
Another classic lens.
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Having used the 77 this weekend, the differenc eis stark. The 50 is a fine lens but the 77 is sharp from f/1.8 whilst the 50 really doe sneed f/2.8.

The extra length means you get just GORGEOUS pop off the screen.

Having used it for 30 minutes it's by far the best lens I have used, though CA are a serious concern IMHO.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Alfisti Quote

Having used it for 30 minutes it's by far the best lens I have used, though CA are a serious concern IMHO.
good for B/W conversions then ehh?


altho i will question your need for 2.8 on the 50, this evening i'll process my days out with the 50 (me and my canon buddy ended up on lakeshore) at 1.4 and 2.0 this thing reallllyyy impressed me.
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It's not like it's bad but it's considerably softer and has less contrast at f/1.4 to f/2.5 than the 77 does at f/1.8.

QuoteOriginally posted by Gooshin Quote
good for B/W conversions then ehh?


altho i will question your need for 2.8 on the 50, this evening i'll process my days out with the 50 (me and my canon buddy ended up on lakeshore) at 1.4 and 2.0 this thing reallllyyy impressed me.
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77 limited

I have both, I like the 77 ltd better, it has more reach and therefore not too close to the subject. The IQ is also better - but the 50mm is already very good. Like the previous poster says, you need to have both.

If I have the 43 ltd (LBA knocking) I would consider letting go with the 50mm; otherwise, I am keeping both.
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