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07-08-2008, 02:18 AM   #1
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This subject has been throughly debated but still it comes back

I really really love the DA* 50-135mm f/2.8 but I dont know that 135 is enough,and on the other end (although not in the same league) 55-300.What I want is a 300mm lens in the same theory of the DA * 50-135 f/2.8,without going to the 200 or 300 f/4.

I have a budget of around (loosely) $A500

I want to use this primarily as a sport lenses so a fast glass is a gimme,or am I mistaken in thinking the f/2.8 doesnt cut it

I stand ready for all your thoughts on this


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QuoteOriginally posted by cupic Quote
This subject has been throughly debated but still it comes back

I really really love the DA* 50-135mm f/2.8 but I dont know that 135 is enough,and on the other end (although not in the same league) 55-300.What I want is a 300mm lens in the same theory of the DA * 50-135 f/2.8,without going to the 200 or 300 f/4.

I have a budget of around (loosely) $A500

I want to use this primarily as a sport lenses so a fast glass is a gimme,or am I mistaken in thinking the f/2.8 doesnt cut it

I stand ready for all your thoughts on this


cheers
If you can wait until after the Ulan Bator photo show, you might be able to get the 60-250
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i'm confused Robert. you want something
faster than f2.8
about 300mm long
~ $A500
and presumably autofocus? that would only exist in a fantasy land

if you're doing fast action then f2.8 is probably required, there are very few tele's that are f2 and they cost a fortune. maybe you should consider getting a Tamron / Sigma 70-200 2.8 when it comes out and slapping on a 1.4x TC, but even those go for <$1000 USD
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Based on your budget, you will have a tuff time finding what you want. The Da*200mm with a 1.4 or 1.5x tc would solve the problem and give you good IQ and complement the da*50-135mm. With fast lenses, $'s are always high in the equation

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i'm confused Robert. you want something
faster than f2.8
about 300mm long
~ $A500
and presumably autofocus? that would only exist in a fantasy land

if you're doing fast action then f2.8 is probably required, there are very few tele's that are f2 and they cost a fortune. maybe you should consider getting a Tamron / Sigma 70-200 2.8 when it comes out and slapping on a 1.4x TC, but even those go for <$1000 USD


Thanks for the feedback but 500 was a ball park figure as i looked at Berger Bros they have 50-150 f/2.8 EX DC HSM for $US680 or a sigma 135-400 F/4-5.6(Hows the IQ on this one).So IQ is on my highest priority list then comes glass to match then comes price

BTW my name not Robert that just a quote from someone named Robert Capa and I thought it was good enough to use hes quotation


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Sigma review: Sigma AF 135-400mm f/4.5-5.6 APO Aspherical RF - Test Report / Review

For IQ, you would be better served with the Sigma 100-300mm f/4 EX DG IF HSM APO: Sigma AF 100-300mm f/4 APO EX DG HSM (Nikon) - Review / Test Report
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QuoteOriginally posted by cupic Quote
Thanks for the feedback but 500 was a ball park figure as i looked at Berger Bros they have 50-150 f/2.8 EX DC HSM for $US680 or a sigma 135-400 F/4-5.6(Hows the IQ on this one).So IQ is on my highest priority list then comes glass to match then comes price

BTW my name not Robert that just a quote from someone named Robert Capa and I thought it was good enough to use hes quotation
try out the search functions on google, with site:dpreview.com or site: pentaxforums.com as a search term and you can dig up some results on both lenses. sorry about calling you Robert there, i just assumed that was your name

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For IQ, you would be better served with the Sigma 100-300mm f/4 EX DG IF HSM APO: Sigma AF 100-300mm f/4 APO EX DG HSM (Nikon) - Review / Test Report
many happy users of this lens here:
https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-slr-lens-discussion/29941-sigma-ex...f-4-dg-if.html
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I do not have the 50-135 but it is reported to be very good. I would recommend the 18-250
(either PTX or Tamron) to extend your range if you want a zoom. I have the Tamron and while it does not yield the same IQ as my DA* 200 or 300 it is very good for my purposes, especially as a carry lens...........

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QuoteOriginally posted by cupic Quote
This subject has been throughly debated but still it comes back

I really really love the DA* 50-135mm f/2.8 but I dont know that 135 is enough,and on the other end (although not in the same league) 55-300.What I want is a 300mm lens in the same theory of the DA * 50-135 f/2.8,without going to the 200 or 300 f/4.

I have a budget of around (loosely) $A500

I want to use this primarily as a sport lenses so a fast glass is a gimme,or am I mistaken in thinking the f/2.8 doesnt cut it

I stand ready for all your thoughts on this


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the magnification increase and FOV decrease is VERY MINIMAL between 135 and 200 (i just picked up a 80-200 lens to take a look)

i doubt you will feel the need for that extra mm.
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I think the Sigma 100-300 f4 deserves serious consideration. Add a TC to that and you can do just about anything.
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I think the Sigma 100-300 f4 deserves serious consideration. Add a TC to that and you can do just about anything.
can i see through womens clothing?
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Gooshin, With your sense of humour and perspective on reality I don't see why not. Just use the Tamron 1.4 TC @300mm in bright light.
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All I can say is save another $200 ... and wait for the Tamron 70-200mm f/2.8 ... it will be about the $700US mark (and the Oz $$$$ is nearly the same as the the US $ at the moment).

If you can get a x1.4 tele-converter ... it will give you that 300mm just about ... but for around f/4.
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All I can say is save another $200 ... and wait for the Tamron 70-200mm f/2.8 ... it will be about the $700US mark (and the Oz $$$$ is nearly the same as the the US $ at the moment).

If you can get a x1.4 tele-converter ... it will give you that 300mm just about ... but for around f/4.


Thanks for all your valved opinion guys.Yes simon I have read to testing on DP reviews and all is not well as it sounds promising but fails in the area of silent drive(doesnt have) and others issues.But I was looking forward to the beast but will look further a field.



Any spare M42 adapters simon?



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...I want to use this primarily as a sport lenses so a fast glass is a gimme,or am I mistaken in thinking the f/2.8 doesnt cut it...
If you are interested in night sports, f2,8 is a must.
On top of all, use of flash is usualy prohibited in those events.
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