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08-12-2008, 06:06 PM   #241
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I'd be interested in details. I'm about to get the 40mm too.

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Well, I did go ahead with the 40, I can always resell it for at least what I paid if I don't like it.

As for the prices, there's not a lot to it. Microsoft have been promoting the crap out of their live.com search engine recently, and are offering some serious ebay discounts by way of using it. Right now a search like 'cheap nikon' will yield a banner ad that when clicked gives you 25% off an ebay purchase (the caveat being that Paypal has to be the one payment option and it has to be a 'buy it now' item). 60 days after purchase you get cash back into your Paypal account. Pretty simple, though I think it's limited to a total of 3 purchases and a total of $750 cash back per ebay account. You do have to sign up for a Microsoft 'Live' account but it's free and takes less than a minute.

I got my K20D for < $800 this way, and my very lightly used 16-45 for something like $220... for a while in late June they were doing 35%!

PS: I was wrong about the $175, that seller was not Paypal exclusively so didn't qualify. Looking now there are some going for $249 still which would be $186.75 after the 25% cash back.
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QuoteOriginally posted by pingflood Quote
Well, I did go ahead with the 40, I can always resell it for at least what I paid if I don't like it.

As for the prices, there's not a lot to it. Microsoft have been promoting the crap out of their live.com search engine recently, and are offering some serious ebay discounts by way of using it. Right now a search like 'cheap nikon' will yield a banner ad that when clicked gives you 25% off an ebay purchase (the caveat being that Paypal has to be the one payment option and it has to be a 'buy it now' item). 60 days after purchase you get cash back into your Paypal account. Pretty simple, though I think it's limited to a total of 3 purchases and a total of $750 cash back per ebay account. You do have to sign up for a Microsoft 'Live' account but it's free and takes less than a minute.

I got my K20D for < $800 this way, and my very lightly used 16-45 for something like $220... for a while in late June they were doing 35%!

PS: I was wrong about the $175, that seller was not Paypal exclusively so didn't qualify. Looking now there are some going for $249 still which would be $186.75 after the 25% cash back.
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I never held 43, but I do have 40 and it's one superb lens

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Sigma 30/1.4 vs Pentax 43/1.9...

I have a Pentax K10D, I'm trying to sell my DA40/2.8 Pancake so I can get one of those two.

However I'm curious, aside from the fact the Sigma will only work on a cropped digital, how is the sharpness between the two lens.

Would you go with a 43/1.9 or a 30/1.4 if you were primarily shooting digital (I do have an MZ-6 but lets exclude that for a moment).

They seem to be comparably priced and the sigma would be about half a stop faster, and closer to normal on my K10D (30*1.5 = 45mm, as opposed to 43*1.5 = 65mm)
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if you're looking for pure statistics, photozone has tested them both

i have the FA43 and it's a good lens, very sharped when stopped down and very usable at f2.8, and have to be careful using it wide open because of the lack of corner sharpness and somewhat rough bokeh at times
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the sigma 30 F1.4 is on my to get list

i was going to buy it recently but a very cheap 28mm F1.8 dropped into my lap so i'm using that for now.


seeing the results of the 28mm f1.8, compared to my FA50 and FA43, id say that unless sigma did something drasticly different in their 30 F1.4 piece, you wont be disappointed with it.

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Somehow I am having a feeling that you would enjoy sigma 30 f1.4 a lot better. Fa 43 mm ltd should be a lens to use when this particular focal length is exactly what you are after.

Sigma 31 f1.4 at least is brighter and reliable autofocus + central resolution. The lens is more of usable focal length for multi-purpose.

Though both lenses have dodgy bokeh against many types of backgrounds, sigma might be your best bet (most people would sell it within 2 years though because our appetite for LBA never ends.
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The FA43 has an amazing 3D pop to the images that I can sometimes recognise cold. I love the way it renders but wish it had a smaller focal length as it's too long on digital... or not long enough.
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QuoteOriginally posted by rparmar Quote
The FA43 has an amazing 3D pop to the images that I can sometimes recognise cold. I love the way it renders but wish it had a smaller focal length as it's too long on digital... or not long enough.
everyone always says that..

but isnt that simply a matter of contrast (user adjustable) and depth of field?

take any lens that can go to F2.0 or less, pick a nice subject matter and viola, you get 3d pop.

example: F1.8

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QuoteOriginally posted by roentarre Quote
Somehow I am having a feeling that you would enjoy sigma 30 f1.4 a lot better. Fa 43 mm ltd should be a lens to use when this particular focal length is exactly what you are after.

Sigma 31 f1.4 at least is brighter and reliable autofocus + central resolution. The lens is more of usable focal length for multi-purpose.

Though both lenses have dodgy bokeh against many types of backgrounds, sigma might be your best bet (most people would sell it within 2 years though because our appetite for LBA never ends.
Seeing as I might shoot it a lot wide open... just how bad is it? especially compare to the likes of my pancake lens (since most pancakes are pretty consistant from wide to stopped down)
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i think you should focus more on the focal lengths of the 2 lenses.

i love the 30ish focal length on digital. that's MY personal opinion.

you have to choose what focal length YOU prefer, then look for the lenses to suit your focal length
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A few of my friends have the Sigma on various mounts and basically the lens has a very sharp center but corners are pretty soft. More of concern is instances of varying degrees of but noticeable back focusing. It is also a big lens, size wise.

Personally if I want the focal length, the more expensive FA 31mm Ltd is far, far better optically than the Sigma 30mm. Buy lenses according to the FOV because the difference between 30m and 43mm is quite apparent.
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Seeing as I might shoot it a lot wide open... just how bad is it? especially compare to the likes of my pancake lens (since most pancakes are pretty consistant from wide to stopped down)
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