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07-31-2008, 12:42 PM   #121
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Seems to me you'd have to get uncomfortably close to your subject to get a good, waist up, portrait. My go-to portrait lens is the 77mm. If I want to (or have to) back off even more, a 135mm.

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QuoteOriginally posted by jsherman999 Quote
I keep telling people, you only need one kidney.

The only real problem is... Do it now, wait for the DA* 30 to sell your kidney? because you can't do it twice.
yes, we can /opt for dialysis/ (c)
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''personaly i consider a "portrait" a head or head + upper body image, other people would consider anything with a person in it a portrait''

Ok. So I asked something else what I really mean. Sorry. Yep...I'm surely very happy with FA* 85mm by taking photos from people faces or heads only.
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For normal standing distance I use the 77mm Ltd for head shots and the 31mm Ltd for torso and to head. The 31mm is a great lens, but frankly if you don't need to speed you can get very similar results for less $$$ at the same focal length. Compared it to the Pentax DA 16-45mm a while back. The 31mm Ltd gave the "better" shot, but not twice as good. I got mine because I like the focal length and it gives me the option of full frame should it ever become an option.


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seriously dude, its just silly banter used for hyperbolic emphasis, if you (or anyone) is seriously offended.....:ugh:
Where I'm from "Are you insane?" without an emoticon is not "silly banter". You deliberately try to get a rise out of people and then you're surprised when you do? Sheesh.

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you can take a portrait with any lens
Meaning what? That you think the FA31 is not better than other lenses at this?

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the question was asked "would i get better portrait shots from a 31ltd", my answer to that is "no", proper portraits made from longer focal lengths results in better pictures, on average.
Actually the initial question was "Can anyone tell me very good reasons why not to buy that lens". Since the OP already has an FA*85 I think he'd be well served by the FA31 for situations where he wants to have a wider FOV while still preserving excellent bokeh. I am not saying the FA31 is "better" than the FA*85, so there's no need to get all defensive.
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QuoteOriginally posted by deejjjaaaa Quote
yes, we can /opt for dialysis/ (c)
There is always a kindney transplant option.
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Thanks for the kind words guys, appreciated.

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1. Ford Focus RS (300BHP hatchback!)

2. Land Rover LRX concept

3. Nissan Cube?

4. Citroen concept

5. Chevrolet Camaro concept?

6. Suzuki concept

7. Honda Concepts? (Both cars were rotating, on different floor levels, so tried to get them both in the same shot.)

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Oh my gosh I want one of those Camaros.

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Say what now? The FA31 is only 345g which can hardly be considered a burden. I regularly walk around with my Vivitar Series 1 105mm and it's 656g.
He was angling for "superflous" reasons *not* to get the 31
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''The 31mm is a great lens, but frankly if you don't need to speed you can get very similar results for less $$$ at the same focal length. Compared it to the Pentax DA 16-45mm a while back. The 31mm Ltd gave the "better" shot, but not twice as good. I got mine because I like the focal length and it gives me the option of full frame should it ever become an option.''

By looking my present lenses: has anyone here compared FA* 28-70mm to Ltd 31mm with using f4- f10? If Ltd 31mm would not be clearly better (whole body photos and mainly looking for the sharpness and the bokeh of the photos) then I surely do not need it.

Has anyone also tested Tamron SP 300mm f2.8 (adaptall II lens, model 360B)with using both Pentax 1,7 AF TC as well Tamron's adaptall II 1,4X TC (140F) on it?

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One clarification to this:
Has anyone also tested Tamron SP 300mm f2.8 (adaptall II lens, model 360B) with using both Pentax 1,7 AF TC as well Tamron's adaptall II 1,4X TC (140F) on it?

...so I mean in the same time by making 714mm f6,7 combo?

http://forums.steves-digicams.com/forums/view_topic.php?id=120920&forum_id=80

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QuoteOriginally posted by Kguru Quote
Sure is FF suitable, but ....
(1) it's so heavy you can't really walk around with it
(2) a lot of people want to have it, you should do different
Nonsense. The 31 Ltd is not heavy, unless you consider 12 oz (345 gm) heavy. I walk around with this lens on my K10D for hours without feeling any sense of fatigue.

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If you want something in the 30ish range that's perfectly good, but costs a good bit less, go for the DA35/2.8 macro. I haven't tried it as a portrait lens, but why not? It's also a good bit smaller than the FA31.

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The 31ltd can apply it's magic to the portrait style nicely, IMO:


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If you get the FA, you'll play around with it and start to find how it best suits your interests. The key thing to note is that you will find it interesting. Its a safe investment and solid performer - a good general purpose lens that (for me) specializes in low light applications.

As far as a portrait lens, I'd say not as its specialty, but everything is in how you use it. I find that if you need shots with a little more context, then the focal point and speed lend it a specialized purpose in the field -







I like this one (but she's tiny, so its kinda cheating )



Its a great focal length for group shots at a comfortable distance while still imparting good subject/background seperation though -

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