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07-13-2008, 04:43 AM   #1
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lens choice (135/3.5)

Hello,

I'm looking at 2 135mm f/3.5 lenses, one is a Takumar and the other is a Sigma (a lens aimed at Konica cameras, but if it's a bayonet mount then it should fit a Pentax P30, right?). Both are multi coated. Apparently, the 135/3.5 is a good lens. Has anybody had any experience, god or bad, with those?

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Some photos from the S-M-C Takumar 135/3.5, on both film and digital bodies.

If the Sigma doesn't say it's a Pentax mount, don't try to mount it on your Pentax.
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QuoteOriginally posted by lazyeye Quote
Hello,

I'm looking at 2 135mm f/3.5 lenses, one is a Takumar and the other is a Sigma (a lens aimed at Konica cameras, but if it's a bayonet mount then it should fit a Pentax P30, right?). Both are multi coated. Apparently, the 135/3.5 is a good lens. Has anybody had any experience, god or bad, with those?

Thank you
The Takumar is always a winner, it's amazing in all respects. But I'll sell you a Schneider-Kreuznach , which is even better.
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I figured the Takumar was the best bet.
A screw fitting would require an adapter, right?

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I figured the Takumar was the best bet.
A screw fitting would require an adapter, right?
Yes a M42 adapter. Get one from Pentax.
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is there a great practical difference between a 'super' and 'super multi coated'?
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beware konica mounts don't fit pentax

beware konica mounts don't fit pentax in fact there are many different bayonette mounts and no two are the same.

If you are looking at a 135, there are many pentax options. Personally I would go for an SMC 135 F2.5, Although it is heavier it is one stop faster. There are also some F2.8 and F3.5 lenses available in K mount at relitively low prices. I passed on a 135 F2.8 with a Sears brand name for $10.

In hind sight, I probably should bhave bought it even though I have a K mount 135 F2.5 because for $10 why not?

The 135 F2.5 will cost you more, but is a very noce lens.
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QuoteOriginally posted by lazyeye Quote
is there a great practical difference between a 'super' and 'super multi coated'?
The "super" versions are more susceptible to flare and may display a bit less contrast.

Other than that, the only large practical difference comes if you ever choose to buy an old Spotmatic F (or ES or ESII) and want to do open-aperture metering. If you're just going to use them on a digital, then the mechanical differences don't matter at all.

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I'm planning on using it for a recently bought P30n
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Even though it might be more prone to flare, don't let it stop you. I have not yet suffered from flare with any of my Super Takumars. The only Takumar I have had problems with flares on is the 20mm f4.5 and that is a S-M-C.

Most of my "keeper" pictures are shot with 135/3.5 Super tak or 55/1.8 Super takumar. So they are good lenses. Infact, I dare to say, all Super Takumars give an insane amount of bang per buck. There are not many, if any to stay away from.

For example the 150mm f/4 I have heard tons and tons of people complain about. But when I got my copy, I found out it really is a great lens that performs very well. Compared to SMC-M 200/4 and SMC-M 135/3.5 I cant tell a difference.
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I've found that I sometimes get a bit better contrast from a S-M-C Tak vs.s the same non-SMC Tak (noticed this on a 135, 50 and 200, both non and multicoated versions.) However, the difference, when I even noticed, was pretty minimal, and frankly, a one-click fix in Picasa (contrast) made them exactly equal.

If you watch for flare (maybe use a hood,) and are willing to occasionally do a tiny
bit of PP, the non-SMC Taks are just as good as the SMC Taks - that wonderful
color & sharpness are all there with both versions.

Take a look at the "Super tak club" thread to see what you can expect from these
lenses.


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QuoteQuote:
Zewrak "But I'll sell you a Schneider-Kreuznach , which is even better."

I recently acquired a Schneider-Kreuznach Tele-Xenar 135 f 3.5. I can not find any information about it online. Is there any you can provide me with here? Thanks.

Regards,

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I recently acquired a Schneider-Kreuznach Tele-Xenar 135 f 3.5. I can not find any information about it online. Is there any you can provide me with here? Thanks.

Regards,

Ernest
Not really, it's quite a rare lens. It does not show up often for sale. Back in the days Schneider was ranked among the top lenses, even more expensive then the Carl Zeiss lenses. I saw some pricelist of lenses from the sixties and the Schneider topped it off, quite alot, like 200% .

I did not know that it was that good, I got it in a package of other lenses and it was in there, dusty and all. Took it up dusted it off and it was in great condition. I put it among the "lesser" lenses in my cabinet for a few weeks. And then I decided to take it out on a test run.

I took a few shots with it and returned to the computer for some pixelpeeping. And the first image I got up was this:


Full size (recommended)

Imagine my surprise. It basically made all my other 135mm (and there been a few) lenses look like the bottom of a glassbottle.

The lens is of Sonnar type, it has 4 elements, 3 front and one back. And it was manufactured sometime in the middle of 1960ies. It has no MC, but is still very contrasty. I have not personally had any problems with flare.

You can watch my whole example gallery at Schneider-Kreuznach Edixa-Tele-Xenar 135mm f3.5

All images was taken hand held, using the K10D in RAW mode, no editing except conversion to JPEG and resized to fit the gallery limits.
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I can recommend this one:
eBay.ie: Pentax A* 135 135mm F1.8 (item 110267506310 end time 13-Jul-08 19:34:16 BST)
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sh.. 1,362 euros!
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