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05-08-2016, 08:04 PM   #1
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My (hypothetical) K-1 travel/hiking kit

One of the things I have loved about Pentax APS-C is the ability to carry a body and 3 high quality compact primes, and have the ability to shoot a wide array of situations/subjects, without adding much size/weight to one's pack. I've done this a lot with the K-3/K-5 and Da15/Fa31/Fa77. I've gotten to thinking about the possibility of a similar FF kit (with even some features beyond what my APS-C equivalent offers). Ideally, criteria would be: 1 body, 3 primes, covers range of (at least) 21-200mm (without crop mode), compact (all fits in a Clik Elite SLR chest pack), all WR, all excellent IQ, (ideally) same filter thread size (probably a pipe dream), and covers a wide variety of shooting situations/subjects. Here's what I'm thinking:

1) K-1 body (obviously)
2) (hypothetical - but hoping we see something like this) DFA 20 (or 21)/2.8 (or 4) WR
3) Da*55
4) DFA 100 macro WR
5) DFA HD 2x TC (again, hypothetical, but one can hope)
6) CPL and ND filter

That would make a really high quality, versatile, compact, all WR kit that covers UW to moderate tele (with TC). Really the only thing it wouldn't do is wildlife, as not long enough. But landscape? Check. Street? Check. Portrait? Check. Low-light? Check. Astro? Check. Etc.

For now, I think when I do get the K-1 (a while), my travel/hiking kit will likely consist of:

1) K-1
2) Fa 20/2.8
3) Fa 43 or Da*55
4) DFA 100 macro
5) maybe a TC (don't have yet)
6) Filters

Anyone else contemplating light prime travel kit options?

-Brandon

05-08-2016, 08:21 PM   #2
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How about a heavy prime kit? I don't have a K1 yet, but have two K3 bodies.

K1 with Sigma 500 f4.5, tripod.
K3 with 43mm Limited or 35mm Limited.
Either 70mm Sigma macro or F100 f4 macro.

Lunch and lots to drink. Bear spray.

I must be a bit nuts, but I carry all this stuff, and end up using them all for shots. No bear spray opportunities yet.
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You'll be lucky to locate an FA20 for a reasonable price. At the moment they are selling for silly money, which seems to be a result of scarcity more than anything. You can bet the resale value will plummet once Pentax release the ultra wide FF prime that's on the roadmap. Other, equally rare, but somewhat cheaper options would be the k18, a20, m20, FA20-35, or voigtlander 20mm f3.5.

easy to locate ultra wide options would be the samyang 14mm, or sigma 20mm. A cheapish wide option would be the FA28 (or just stick with your FA31 until new lenses are released)

As standard primes go, whilst not weather sealed, the FA43 rocks on the k-1 (I had grand ideas of hiking with the FA28, FA43, and DFA100 - I actually ended up just taking the 43, and left everything else at home). If the roadmap remains accurate, then it looks like the FA43 will be the second lens to get a DFA makeover? (Unless they release a new nifty fifty?)

The DFA100 WR gets the thumbs up from me on FF.

It wouldn't surprise me if you actually just take the 3 FA limiteds
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QuoteOriginally posted by derekkite Quote
How about a heavy prime kit? I don't have a K1 yet, but have two K3 bodies.

K1 with Sigma 500 f4.5, tripod.
K3 with 43mm Limited or 35mm Limited.
Either 70mm Sigma macro or F100 f4 macro.

Lunch and lots to drink. Bear spray.

I must be a bit nuts, but I carry all this stuff, and end up using them all for shots. No bear spray opportunities yet.
My landscape only kit:

Sigma 20-40 (or Tokina 20-35 winner TBD)
Sigma 24-60
Sigma 28mm Macro
DA 40 ltd
Sigma 70mm Macro
Tamron 90mm Macro
+ tripod

If I'm doing mixed work
one of the macros stays in the bag and the 100-300 f4 and the 500 4.5 are added plus monopod

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Hmm... primes may be a good route, but for an all around kit I would honestly suggest a UWA prime, with a good midrange zoom like the HD D-FA 28-105mm, and maybe a 100-300. You can use carabiner clips to hook the lens pouches to your belt/belt loops, and a small neoprene nintendo 3ds pouch (with carabiner to clip to you) or a small messenger bag for spare batteries, small hoods (49-62mm), etc... While the idea of primes is a nice one, a walkaround kit should mainly focus on versatility with as few lens changes as possible. Same theory applies to my kit when I kayak. I'm working with limited space, so can't take a ton of lenses, and lens swaps will make me lose a lot of shots that I don't get a chance at often.
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You'll be lucky to locate an FA20 for a reasonable price.
Fortunately I already own it


QuoteOriginally posted by robthebloke Quote
It wouldn't surprise me if you actually just take the 3 FA limiteds
I'm sure they'll all shine on the K-1, but that would leave me too long on the wide end, and without macro capability.

-Brandon
05-08-2016, 10:07 PM   #7
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My day in the bush or by the sea kit is currently:

K3ii, FA43, DA300, 1.4TC and usually either the light travel tripod for just landscape shots or the sturdy one that will hold a 420mm combo still enough.

When the K1 arrives you can just substitute the K1 for the K3ii.


The day at sea kit is currently K3ii with DA300 and K7 with FA77 plus 1.4TC.

When the K1 arrives I want a DFA 70-200 on it, with that combo taking the place of the K7.


The travel kit will probably be K3ii, FA43, FA77, DA200, 1.4TC but maybe the K1 will travel and the K3ii will stay at home. (BTW: Nikon 1AW will probably get to travel as back up.)

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QuoteOriginally posted by derekkite Quote
No bear spray opportunities yet.
Probably a good thing. If you should get eaten, do us a favour in the last seconds and set the camera for interval shooting as it passes down the bear's digestive tract and turn all the LEDs on to provide illumination. Veterinary science will thank you.

05-09-2016, 03:36 AM   #9
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K1 arriving today!

Upcoming trip with a couple of major hikes for landscapes:

K1
FA 20/2.8
FA* 43 LImted
FA* 77 Limited
HD 1.4 Teleconverter

Optional:

Samyang 14/2.8 (depends on how heavy the rest of my stuff is.....)

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I'm sure they'll all shine on the K-1, but that would leave me too long on the wide end, and without macro capability.

-Brandon
Raynox or extension tubes makes for a nice light add on to a kit. The FA 77 plus Raynox is very good.
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K1 + my Bigma 50-500 HSM OS. Covers most all of the range needed for anything. Sure, the IQ may not be like a prime, but I'm gonna be a Pro so my outstanding skills will make up for any loss in IQ.

Supposed to arrive today.....I am so excited! I've ever been a Pro at much of anything, and now I will be!

I've been reading those Rumors and FF threads for years, that's where I learned that a FF is what makes you a Pro. Thank goodness I'm an avid reader and did not miss out on that important information!

Regards!
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I've only kicked around the RMNP a bit, but after looking at your lens list, I think I'd have a hard time leaving the F*300 at home--with its MFD, I don't think you'd miss a dedicated macro for blooms, butterflies, and assorted critters. Throw in your FA 31 and a way to get your tripod level (for the occasional pano) and you're golden.
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QuoteOriginally posted by dhodgeh Quote
Upcoming trip with a couple of major hikes for landscapes: K1FA 20/2.8FA* 43 LImtedFA* 77 LimitedHD 1.4 Teleconverter
This is what I'm thinking also, add the 100 macro. My K-1 arrives today and I'm anxious to throw the FA 20mm on it and see what I get.
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I had my hiking kit with the k-3 perfect: 15, 31, 77 and maybe the 300. Or in bad weather 16-50 and 77. Now with the k-1 it's all messed up . Still figuring it out. The new 28-105 does look pretty nice for a zoom.
M-20, FA-43, M-85, DA200 + 1.7 tc would be about right I think. All but the 200 can share filters.
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I'm rather enjoying FA 20-35/FA 43/FA 77 with K-1 right now. The 43mm sees the most use - it's just the perfect focal length on FF. Hoping to take the 31mm out for a walk soon.
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