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05-25-2016, 08:30 AM   #1
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D FA* 70-200 selling at big discount in Australia

Just a heads-up that the Pentax D FA* 70-200mm f2.8 lens is selling for Aus$2198 from Leederville Cameras. At current exchange rates, that is about US$1579, which is around US$220 cheaper than B&H and the other American sellers.

For those in Australia, there is of course no additional duty and the warranty is local, so it's a "best buy" at the moment. I've ordered mine, though I don't yet have a K1. I'm looking forward to using it first on the K3.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Paul the Sunman Quote
D FA* 70-200 selling at big discount in Australia Just a heads-up that the Pentax D FA* 70-200mm f2.8 lens is selling for Aus$2198 from Leederville Cameras. At current exchange rates, that is about US$1579, which is around US$220 cheaper than B&H and the other American sellers. For those in Australia, there is of course no additional duty and the warranty is local, so it's a "best buy" at the moment. I've ordered mine, though I don't yet have a K1. I'm looking forward to using it first on the K3.
According to what I've seen here and there, the DFA70-200 does not sell as well as DFA150-450 or 24-70, although it was design together with the DFA150-450. First, this lens is really expansive, second, there are a lot of Sigma 70-200 and Tamron 70-200 available new or used , and those lenses are excellent values (just a tiny bit less sharp wide open than the DFA70-200, but also 4 times cheaper and half the weight). I have a Tamy 70-200, it works great on the K1, I was considering the DFA70-200 but at 2K USD/Euros, forget about it, I keep my Tamy... And even if the DFA70-200 is sharp wide open, it's not going to beat a DFA135 f2 or DFA85 1.4.
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QuoteOriginally posted by biz-engineer Quote
And even if the DFA70-200 is sharp wide open, it's not going to beat a DFA135 f2 or DFA85 1.4.
It's a bit hard to beat lenses that don't exist yet (except on paper or as factory prototypes).

Or perhaps you meant something other than "DFA" but still typed it. Twice.
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QuoteOriginally posted by pathdoc Quote
It's a bit hard to beat lenses that don't exist yet (except on paper or as factory prototypes).
Even on paper, a f2.8 lens is not as fast as f1.4, it is simply not possible :-) Therefore, I know already that the DFA70-200 no matter how good it is, will never be as fast as a 85 f1.4 or 135 f2 lens and I'm sure that the prime will be smaller. Since zooming in and out is something needed when subject distance vary quickly (no time to change lenses), the DFA70-200 on FF replaced two primes but at $2K I may still be better of get two primes @ $1K each instead of a 2 kg zoom. I already have a DFA100 macro, it render beautifully wide open on FF, it is small and cost less than $500, why should I get a 2kg lens at $2K ?

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QuoteOriginally posted by biz-engineer Quote
Even on paper, a f2.8 lens is not as fast as f1.4, it is simply not possible :-) Therefore, I know already that the DFA70-200 no matter how good it is, will never be as fast as a 85 f1.4 or 135 f2 lens and I'm sure that the prime will be smaller.
You weren't at all specific about how it was going to "beat" the lenses of your dreams, at least not until AFTER I replied to your post Of course it will not be faster, but wide aperture isn't everything, and if you know anything about Pentax design philosophy it's that uniform sharpness across the field isn't everything either, especially when it comes to prime lenses (excluding macros, in which it is a specific design feature).

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I already have a DFA100 macro, it render beautifully wide open on FF, it is small and cost less than $500, why should I get a 2kg lens at $2K ?
Because you need the focal-length flexibility and the wide aperture together in the one lens. And if you do NOT need it, you don't buy it - it's that simple. I won't be buying it because I have no pressing need for it, and because I can't justify the cost on grounds of want alone. Then again, seems to me it's mostly designed for people who need it for their work and can pass on the costs to their customers over the lens's life-cycle.
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Why would you discount it so much. just wait until People have their K-1's They will sell them eventually. They're not even promoting a discount. It's probably just wrongly priced.
Elsewhere it's more: Pentax Lens 70-200mm F/2.8 D-FA ED | Digital Camera Warehouse

edit: they used the wrong part number. http://www.leedervillecameras.com.au/products/lenses/pentax/pentax-hd-pentax...ed-sdm-wr-lens also partnumber 21310

The 70-200 is 21330 http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1117718-REG/pentax_21330_hd_pentax_d_fa.html

so better snap it up guys before they find out or before I send them a email about it

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QuoteOriginally posted by biz-engineer Quote
Even on paper, a f2.8 lens is not as fast as f1.4, it is simply not possible :-) Therefore, I know already that the DFA70-200 no matter how good it is, will never be as fast as a 85 f1.4 or 135 f2 lens and I'm sure that the prime will be smaller. Since zooming in and out is something needed when subject distance vary quickly (no time to change lenses), the DFA70-200 on FF replaced two primes but at $2K I may still be better of get two primes @ $1K each instead of a 2 kg zoom. I already have a DFA100 macro, it render beautifully wide open on FF, it is small and cost less than $500, why should I get a 2kg lens at $2K ?
HOW DARE YOU make sense. I've got the K-3 and have an FA100, DA*200, and F*300 prime lens, so although I wouldn't mind the new DFA 70-200 it just doesn't make sense for my budget either.
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The deal has disappeared

... and the vendor has belatedly fixed the part number too.


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I didn't e-mail them
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QuoteOriginally posted by biz-engineer Quote
Even on paper, a f2.8 lens is not as fast as f1.4, it is simply not possible :-) Therefore, I know already that the DFA70-200 no matter how good it is, will never be as fast as a 85 f1.4 or 135 f2 lens and I'm sure that the prime will be smaller. Since zooming in and out is something needed when subject distance vary quickly (no time to change lenses), the DFA70-200 on FF replaced two primes but at $2K I may still be better of get two primes @ $1K each instead of a 2 kg zoom. I already have a DFA100 macro, it render beautifully wide open on FF, it is small and cost less than $500, why should I get a 2kg lens at $2K ?
You shoot with zooms for flexibility. If you are sports or wedding photographer, you can't change lenses at a drop of a hat and so it becomes harder to use prime lenses in many situations. In addition, by all accounts the DFA 70-200 offers really fast auto focus and very solid corner performance from wide open.

I own the DFA 100 WR and the DA *200 and both lenses are problematic in certain respects. First of all, they are really prone to purple fringing, which the DFA 70-200 doesn't seem to have significant issues with. The other thing is that both lenses aren't exactly speedy auto focusers. The DFA 100 in particular is slow to focus and useless when it comes to tracking auto focus.

So much depends on what you shoot. I would just say that there is plenty of space for both primes and zooms in the line up and that the DFA 70-200 seems like a decent value for what it is.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Rondec Quote
The DFA 100 in particular is slow to focus and useless when it comes to tracking auto focus.
I'd heard reports that it was better on the K-1, but to each lens its own foibles. It is absolutely, certainly - on both my *ist-DL and my K-5 - not a lens I would like to track a fast-moving target with, whether this be a low-flying airplane, a poodle pup galloping (that's the only word for it) across the lawn, or a rapidly crawling or flying insect at MFD.
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QuoteOriginally posted by pathdoc Quote
I'd heard reports that it was better on the K-1, but to each lens its own foibles. It is absolutely, certainly - on both my *ist-DL and my K-5 - not a lens I would like to track a fast-moving target with, whether this be a low-flying airplane, a poodle pup galloping (that's the only word for it) across the lawn, or a rapidly crawling or flying insect at MFD.
It is pretty useless with regard to tracking even on a K-1. I just think if you need fast auto focus and particularly tracking auto focus, then none of these lenses is going to match up with a 70-200 HSM or DC motored lens.

The DFA 100 seems to lock focus better on the K-1 than on earlier cameras, but it still has a tendency to run through the focus plane, rack to the end and then pop back into focus. If it locks on the first time, it is pretty quick.
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Yeah, of all the lenses I have with Quick Shift, this is the only one for which it is IMO a necessity rather than a luxury.
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