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beachboy2 · 06-26-2016, 06:52 AM

Originally posted by boriscleto

300mm mirrors have always been around, both f/5.6 and 6.3, just not as popular as the 500mm f/8s.

There is a modern 300mm for m4/3. Very small... Tamron had an Adaptall 300/5.6 that was said to be sharp and generally lacking in ugly bokeh. Hard to find at a good price, it would be perfect for the Q...

Actually the Tamron Adaptall 06B is 350mm F5.6, relatively hard to get and expensive.

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Stone G. · 06-27-2016, 02:45 AM

Originally posted by boriscleto

... Tamron had an Adaptall 300/5.6 that was said to be sharp and generally lacking in ugly bokeh. Hard to find at a good price, it would be perfect for the Q...

Indeed:

As also said above, the Tamron 06B actually was/is 350mm f/5.6. Regarding the bokeh, well...

bessa-66 · 06-27-2016, 03:27 AM

Originally posted by beachboy2

Actually the Tamron Adaptall 06B is 350mm F5.6, relatively hard to get and expensive.

That's an awesome photo! Where's the doughnut bokeh though? I'm going to get it now!

---------- Post added 06-27-16 at 03:28 AM ----------

Originally posted by Stone G.

Indeed:

As also said above, the Tamron 06B actually was/is 350mm f/5.6. Regarding the bokeh, well...

What is wrong with the Bokeh?

beachboy2 · 06-27-2016, 04:16 AM

Thanks bessa-66. There are tiny donuts in the weed stacked on the shore.

Stone G. · 06-27-2016, 05:26 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by bessa-66

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---------- Post added 06-27-16 at 03:28 AM ----------

What is wrong with the Bokeh?

Well, most people find the doughnut-bokeh as seen ín the background of blackbrid image kind of 'annoying'. But you judge for yourself.

vonBaloney · 06-27-2016, 07:56 AM

I've not seen a mirror lens without the donut bokeh -- it is inherent in the design. Whether you will see it or not and how ugly it is depends on the background distance -- if you can get good subject isolation (i.e. bird on a branch with no branches in nearby background) you won't see it (faraway background will be creamy and smooth). So it just depends.

bessa-66 · 06-27-2016, 04:20 PM

Originally posted by Stone G.

Well, most people find the doughnut-bokeh as seen ín the background of blackbrid image kind of 'annoying'. But you judge for yourself.

I don't mind it used like those photos, although it does look odd in some contexts

**pepperberry farm** · 06-27-2016, 07:47 PM - **1 Like**

as stated above, the bokeh is going to be somewhat different - sometimes harsh and rather distracting:

or less so, depending upon the light source of the bokeh and distance between subject and background:

I have the Tamron 55BB 500mm lens, not the 350mm, but find it to be a fun, niche lens that can be quite sharp if I work at it...

**csa** · 06-28-2016, 07:23 AM

I have the 55B (500 mirror) and find it a great lens! All my shots are hand held, and this lens delivers very nice results.

**goatsNdonkey** · 06-28-2016, 08:52 AM

The forum has a mirror lens club thread. It's a good place to see a lot of examples of the kinds of pictures all of the forum members who like and use mirror lenses take with them. It's also a good place to learn about some of the better or more popular mirror lenses, and even some of the off-brand ones that can produce decent results. As for doughnut bokeh, some people know how to reduce it during or after the exposure, some people really don't stress out about it, and some people say it looks much more like Spaghettios than it looks like doughnuts.

bessa-66 · 06-28-2016, 05:28 PM - **1 Like**

And after all that, I lost the bidding

oh well.

**pepperberry farm** · 06-28-2016, 06:07 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by bessa-66

And after all that, I lost the bidding

oh well.

oops... there's always next time....

**boriscleto** · 06-28-2016, 06:28 PM - **1 Like**

Bid low, bid often, and lose more than you win

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06-27-2016, 02:45 AM	#17
Stone G. Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: North Zealand, Denmark Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,516	Originally posted by boriscleto ... Tamron had an Adaptall 300/5.6 that was said to be sharp and generally lacking in ugly bokeh. Hard to find at a good price, it would be perfect for the Q... Indeed: As also said above, the Tamron 06B actually was/is 350mm f/5.6. Regarding the bokeh, well...

06-27-2016, 03:27 AM	#18
bessa-66 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 137 Original Poster	Originally posted by beachboy2 Actually the Tamron Adaptall 06B is 350mm F5.6, relatively hard to get and expensive. That's an awesome photo! Where's the doughnut bokeh though? I'm going to get it now! ---------- Post added 06-27-16 at 03:28 AM ---------- Originally posted by Stone G. Indeed: As also said above, the Tamron 06B actually was/is 350mm f/5.6. Regarding the bokeh, well... What is wrong with the Bokeh?

06-27-2016, 04:16 AM	#19
beachboy2 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Perth Western Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 222	Thanks bessa-66. There are tiny donuts in the weed stacked on the shore.

06-27-2016, 05:26 AM - 1 Like	#20
Stone G. Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: North Zealand, Denmark Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,516	Originally posted by bessa-66 ----- ---------- Post added 06-27-16 at 03:28 AM ---------- What is wrong with the Bokeh? Well, most people find the doughnut-bokeh as seen ín the background of blackbrid image kind of 'annoying'. But you judge for yourself.

06-27-2016, 07:56 AM	#21
vonBaloney Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 6,029	I've not seen a mirror lens without the donut bokeh -- it is inherent in the design. Whether you will see it or not and how ugly it is depends on the background distance -- if you can get good subject isolation (i.e. bird on a branch with no branches in nearby background) you won't see it (faraway background will be creamy and smooth). So it just depends.

06-27-2016, 04:20 PM	#22
bessa-66 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 137 Original Poster	Originally posted by Stone G. Well, most people find the doughnut-bokeh as seen ín the background of blackbrid image kind of 'annoying'. But you judge for yourself. I don't mind it used like those photos, although it does look odd in some contexts

06-27-2016, 07:47 PM - 1 Like	#23
pepperberry farm amateur dirt farmer Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: probably out in a field somewhere... Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 41,781	as stated above, the bokeh is going to be somewhat different - sometimes harsh and rather distracting: or less so, depending upon the light source of the bokeh and distance between subject and background: I have the Tamron 55BB 500mm lens, not the 350mm, but find it to be a fun, niche lens that can be quite sharp if I work at it...

06-28-2016, 07:23 AM	#24
csa Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Montana mountains Posts: 10,133	I have the 55B (500 mirror) and find it a great lens! All my shots are hand held, and this lens delivers very nice results.

06-28-2016, 08:52 AM	#25
goatsNdonkey Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Fulton County, Illinois Posts: 3,736	The forum has a mirror lens club thread. It's a good place to see a lot of examples of the kinds of pictures all of the forum members who like and use mirror lenses take with them. It's also a good place to learn about some of the better or more popular mirror lenses, and even some of the off-brand ones that can produce decent results. As for doughnut bokeh, some people know how to reduce it during or after the exposure, some people really don't stress out about it, and some people say it looks much more like Spaghettios than it looks like doughnuts.

06-28-2016, 05:28 PM - 1 Like	#26
bessa-66 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 137 Original Poster	And after all that, I lost the bidding oh well.

06-28-2016, 06:07 PM - 1 Like	#27
pepperberry farm amateur dirt farmer Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: probably out in a field somewhere... Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 41,781	Originally posted by bessa-66 And after all that, I lost the bidding oh well. oops... there's always next time....

06-28-2016, 06:28 PM - 1 Like	#28
boriscleto Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: North Syracuse, NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 16,477	Bid low, bid often, and lose more than you win

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