FIVE new lenses to be announced by Samyang.

**interested_observer** · 07-13-2016, 06:57 PM - **1 Like**

5 new lenses - announcing 1 per week for the next 5 weeks. Maybe perhaps some AF?

Samyang Optics, Lenses for Camera ? Cine ? CCTV ? Photo, Prime Lenses & Third party Lenses

Phenix · 07-13-2016, 07:19 PM

I doubt there will be any Pentax mount

lesmore49 · 07-13-2016, 07:24 PM

Auto focus at one time was not important to me. However now, I wouldn't buy a new lens without AF. AF works very well with my aging eyes.

MadMathMind · 07-13-2016, 07:28 PM

Originally posted by Phenix

I doubt there will be any Pentax mount

Why? They've always released in K mount, cine line excepted.

AF is unlikely. Problem is Canon. They probably can't make an AF lens for Canon without their help, given Canon's all electronic mount. (Sigma managed to, but that's a sbit shaky sometimes.) Making AF for Pentax only is probably easiest given the ready accessibility of screw drive, but they wouldn't make the K mount lens better than the others.

Phenix · 07-13-2016, 07:40 PM

Originally posted by MadMathMind

Why? They've always released in K mount, cine line excepted.

AF is unlikely. Problem is Canon. They probably can't make an AF lens for Canon without their help, given Canon's all electronic mount. (Sigma managed to, but that's a sbit shaky sometimes.) Making AF for Pentax only is probably easiest given the ready accessibility of screw drive, but they wouldn't make the K mount lens better than the others.

SAMYANG?APS-C???????????????50mm F1.2???? - ???? Watch

google translate "APS-C format MF in a telephoto lens to cover the image circle. Canon EF-M, Sony E, Fujifilm X, the lineup for the Micro Four Thirds."

MadMathMind · 07-13-2016, 07:48 PM

Originally posted by Phenix

SAMYANG?APS-C???????????????50mm F1.2???? - ???? Watch

google translate "APS-C format MF in a telephoto lens to cover the image circle. Canon EF-M, Sony E, Fujifilm X, the lineup for the Micro Four Thirds."

It shouldn't be a surprise they're not making a mirrorless lens in K mount.

Phenix · 07-13-2016, 07:53 PM

Originally posted by MadMathMind

It shouldn't be a surprise they're not making a mirrorless lens in K mount.

Can't read Japanese😅

MadMathMind · 07-13-2016, 08:40 PM

Originally posted by Phenix

Can't read Japanese😅

I can! It sez...

Kenko-Tokina will offer for sale a Samyang 50mm F1.2 AS UMC CS lens on 7/22. It is believed the retail price will be 75,000 yen. The colors will be black and silver.

It is a mirrorless telephoto lens covering the image circle of the APS-C format. It will be introduced for Canon EF-M, Sony E, Fujifilm X, and micro 4/3rs.

The lens components include 2 aspherical elements among 7 groups of 9 elements. There are 9 aperture blades. Filter size is 62mm. Lens hood is attached.

The dimensions are 67.5×73〜74.5mm and the weight is 375g〜385g. (These differ with the mount.)

In addition, for use on the same mirrorless APS-C systems there is a 21mm F1.4 ED AS UMC CS coming soon.

Zygonyx · 07-13-2016, 09:41 PM

Thank you, so no interest for K-mount.

pathdoc · 07-14-2016, 03:44 AM

An APS-C-covering lens on a micro 4/3 camera should at least give those M4/3 cameras with IBIS plenty of room to play with.

Sasha · 07-14-2016, 04:02 AM

Originally posted by MadMathMind

Why? They've always released in K mount, cine line excepted.

AF is unlikely. Problem is Canon. They probably can't make an AF lens for Canon without their help, given Canon's all electronic mount. (Sigma managed to, but that's a sbit shaky sometimes.) Making AF for Pentax only is probably easiest given the ready accessibility of screw drive, but they wouldn't make the K mount lens better than the others.

Hope they ditch screw drive in favor of KAF4 mount so AF will be faster and more silent...
And easier to engineering... Anyway, support for Pentax, reading MadMathMind comment, seems unlikely...
So this remains just me hoping for a better support from third part manufacturers... Unfortunately

Mistral75 · 07-14-2016, 04:05 AM

Originally posted by Zygonyx

Thank you, so no interest for K-mount.

The Samyang 50mm f/1.2 AS UMC CS (photo version) and 50mm T/1.3 AS UMC CS (cine version) were announced by Samyang on September 21st, 2015.

The news reported by Digital Camera Watch (link above) is that this lens will soon be distributed in Japan by Kenko-Tokina.

This has not much to do with Samyang teasing 5 lenses to be announced in the next five week, one on each Monday. Among these five lenses those not dedicated to mirrorless cameras, if any, should be available in K mount as it has always been the case with Samyang lenses.

Simen1 · 07-14-2016, 04:10 AM

Originally posted by MadMathMind

It shouldn't be a surprise they're not making a mirrorless lens in K mount.

The current Samyang mirror telephoto lenses are not very good. I hope for a new and better one, because my long telephoto lenses sometimes are prioritized away from the excursion because of weight. But these profiles all look like mirrorless designs. At least two of them with wide angle.

Any speculations on if this is new formulas of current primes or completely new focal lengths? Does any of the profile images match up with current lenses?

Simen1 · 07-14-2016, 04:22 AM

Regarding AF compatibility complications, why don't they make a range measuring and focusing add on device completely independent of camera AF? It might be slow, it might be only a single spot metering, and it might be bothersome to calibrate, but it would be better then only manual focus. For instance based on laser or ultrasound or both. Its own battery for power and a motor to turn the AF ring.

**southlander** · 07-14-2016, 04:23 AM

Well CS is their mirrorless series so all lenses in the CS range are designed for short flange distances. In this case it's not a case of ignoring Pentax, the optical designs are simply not suitable for dslrs.

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07-13-2016, 07:19 PM	#2
Phenix Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 47	I doubt there will be any Pentax mount

07-13-2016, 07:24 PM	#3
lesmore49 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Western Canada Posts: 12,342	Auto focus at one time was not important to me. However now, I wouldn't buy a new lens without AF. AF works very well with my aging eyes.

07-13-2016, 07:28 PM	#4
MadMathMind Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Houston, TX Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,717	Originally posted by Phenix I doubt there will be any Pentax mount Why? They've always released in K mount, cine line excepted. AF is unlikely. Problem is Canon. They probably can't make an AF lens for Canon without their help, given Canon's all electronic mount. (Sigma managed to, but that's a sbit shaky sometimes.) Making AF for Pentax only is probably easiest given the ready accessibility of screw drive, but they wouldn't make the K mount lens better than the others.

07-13-2016, 07:40 PM	#5
Phenix Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 47	Originally posted by MadMathMind Why? They've always released in K mount, cine line excepted. AF is unlikely. Problem is Canon. They probably can't make an AF lens for Canon without their help, given Canon's all electronic mount. (Sigma managed to, but that's a sbit shaky sometimes.) Making AF for Pentax only is probably easiest given the ready accessibility of screw drive, but they wouldn't make the K mount lens better than the others. SAMYANG?APS-C???????????????50mm F1.2???? - ???? Watch google translate "APS-C format MF in a telephoto lens to cover the image circle. Canon EF-M, Sony E, Fujifilm X, the lineup for the Micro Four Thirds."

07-13-2016, 07:48 PM	#6
MadMathMind Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Houston, TX Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,717	Originally posted by Phenix SAMYANG?APS-C???????????????50mm F1.2???? - ???? Watch google translate "APS-C format MF in a telephoto lens to cover the image circle. Canon EF-M, Sony E, Fujifilm X, the lineup for the Micro Four Thirds." It shouldn't be a surprise they're not making a mirrorless lens in K mount.

07-13-2016, 07:53 PM	#7
Phenix Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 47	Originally posted by MadMathMind It shouldn't be a surprise they're not making a mirrorless lens in K mount. Can't read Japanese😅

07-13-2016, 08:40 PM	#8
MadMathMind Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Houston, TX Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,717	Originally posted by Phenix Can't read Japanese😅 I can! It sez... Kenko-Tokina will offer for sale a Samyang 50mm F1.2 AS UMC CS lens on 7/22. It is believed the retail price will be 75,000 yen. The colors will be black and silver. It is a mirrorless telephoto lens covering the image circle of the APS-C format. It will be introduced for Canon EF-M, Sony E, Fujifilm X, and micro 4/3rs. The lens components include 2 aspherical elements among 7 groups of 9 elements. There are 9 aperture blades. Filter size is 62mm. Lens hood is attached. The dimensions are 67.5×73〜74.5mm and the weight is 375g〜385g. (These differ with the mount.) In addition, for use on the same mirrorless APS-C systems there is a 21mm F1.4 ED AS UMC CS coming soon.

07-13-2016, 09:41 PM	#9
Zygonyx Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Ile de France Posts: 4,033	Thank you, so no interest for K-mount.

07-14-2016, 03:44 AM	#10
pathdoc Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2015 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,381	An APS-C-covering lens on a micro 4/3 camera should at least give those M4/3 cameras with IBIS plenty of room to play with.

07-14-2016, 04:02 AM	#11
Sasha Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Rome Posts: 57	Originally posted by MadMathMind Why? They've always released in K mount, cine line excepted. AF is unlikely. Problem is Canon. They probably can't make an AF lens for Canon without their help, given Canon's all electronic mount. (Sigma managed to, but that's a sbit shaky sometimes.) Making AF for Pentax only is probably easiest given the ready accessibility of screw drive, but they wouldn't make the K mount lens better than the others. Hope they ditch screw drive in favor of KAF4 mount so AF will be faster and more silent... And easier to engineering... Anyway, support for Pentax, reading MadMathMind comment, seems unlikely... So this remains just me hoping for a better support from third part manufacturers... Unfortunately

07-14-2016, 04:05 AM	#12
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	Originally posted by Zygonyx Thank you, so no interest for K-mount. The Samyang 50mm f/1.2 AS UMC CS (photo version) and 50mm T/1.3 AS UMC CS (cine version) were announced by Samyang on September 21st, 2015. The news reported by Digital Camera Watch (link above) is that this lens will soon be distributed in Japan by Kenko-Tokina. This has not much to do with Samyang teasing 5 lenses to be announced in the next five week, one on each Monday. Among these five lenses those not dedicated to mirrorless cameras, if any, should be available in K mount as it has always been the case with Samyang lenses.

07-14-2016, 04:10 AM	#13
Simen1 Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Tromsø, Norway Photos: Albums Posts: 1,031	Originally posted by MadMathMind It shouldn't be a surprise they're not making a mirrorless lens in K mount. The current Samyang mirror telephoto lenses are not very good. I hope for a new and better one, because my long telephoto lenses sometimes are prioritized away from the excursion because of weight. But these profiles all look like mirrorless designs. At least two of them with wide angle. Any speculations on if this is new formulas of current primes or completely new focal lengths? Does any of the profile images match up with current lenses?

07-14-2016, 04:22 AM	#14
Simen1 Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Tromsø, Norway Photos: Albums Posts: 1,031	Regarding AF compatibility complications, why don't they make a range measuring and focusing add on device completely independent of camera AF? It might be slow, it might be only a single spot metering, and it might be bothersome to calibrate, but it would be better then only manual focus. For instance based on laser or ultrasound or both. Its own battery for power and a motor to turn the AF ring.

07-14-2016, 04:23 AM	#15
southlander Site Supporter Join Date: May 2012 Location: Adelaide Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,364	Well CS is their mirrorless series so all lenses in the CS range are designed for short flange distances. In this case it's not a case of ignoring Pentax, the optical designs are simply not suitable for dslrs.