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07-17-2016, 03:51 AM   #1
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New lenses we can expect quite soon...

To sum up what's likely in the pipeline:

Fish-eye zoom lens. Great stuff particularly as the image can be de-fished in post processing.
A fast super wide angle: my guess is a 20/1.8 or 1.4
Wide angle lens: 24/2.8 or 2. Pentax desperately need a 24mm lens, a lens popular among landscape photographers. I doubt a 28mm now.
Standard lens; almost certainly a 50/1.4
Fast short telephoto: 85/1.4 or 1.8. My guess is the former.
The D-FA 200/2.8. Odd one this. I would have thought the 70-200/2.8 cover this space.
D-FA 100-300/4. A good idea!

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It seems to me a lot of threads to discuss roadmap for future lenses...
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Standard and fast short telephoto I bet to be rebadged tamrons 45&85 f1.8.
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Standard and fast short telephoto I bet to be rebadged tamrons 45&85 f1.8.
That would make me dissapointed...

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Pentax always preferred 28mm and since it is not "fast" it will be a 28mm F2.8. This could be built very small so it even has a chance of being a new limited with DC and WR.

The 200/2.8 seems superflous. Question is if they could make it somewhat macro. Then it would fill a specialist gap.

The telephoto could also be a 135/2. Since there are enough 85/1.4 on the market that lens with AF would be a more relevant addition.

I hope the UWW prima is not faster than F2 since there is practically no market for a bulky prime where we already have a zoom. Primes need to be small and light to be worthwhile.
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Pentax always preferred 28mm and since it is not "fast" it will be a 28mm F2.8. This could be built very small so it even has a chance of being a new limited with DC and WR.

The 200/2.8 seems superflous. Question is if they could make it somewhat macro. Then it would fill a specialist gap.

The telephoto could also be a 135/2. Since there are enough 85/1.4 on the market that lens with AF would be a more relevant addition.

I hope the UWW prima is not faster than F2 since there is practically no market for a bulky prime where we already have a zoom. Primes need to be small and light to be worthwhile.
28mm is already covered by affordable and not too bulky alternatives (28-105). It is so close to the 31 Limited (rumors has it that it really is a 30mm lens) that it for practical purposes is identical to a 28mm lens. 24mm is not; you either buy the large and heavy 15-30 or the 24-70. No prime available.
Yes, the 200/2.8 is rather odd. Perhaps it is just a slight redesign of the DA version and therefore worthwhile?
135mm prime lenses are not very popular. Most people cover this focal length with zooms...
I disagree that there are no market for bulky wide angle primes. Primes can be made faster than zooms and there definitely is a market for fast primes. Particularly for low light work.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Pål Jensen Quote
That would make me dissapointed...
Why? That are among best lenses I had in my hands in years.
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My own hope would be a WA prime about 17 to 21mm (better if it's 17~18mm) no more than f2.8, happier if it were only f4 = COMPACT. The 15~30 is an amazing lens from all I've read and seen, but it is SO BIG AND HEAVY for a WA. I accept the inevitability of bulk and mass in a long telephoto whether SFL or zoom, but I would prefer something more compact and light for UWA. RICOH: look at the popularity and cult-following of the 15mm f4. Come up with a 20mm f4 FF lens of similar quality & compact design.

I might observe that way back when I purchased my original Spotmatic (my third Pentax), the instruction book recommended the 28mm f3.5 as the best all-around "family photography" lens. So Pentax has had a long-standing affection for that focal length.

When will the 15mm Irix be available? It looks small and light compared to the old 15mm Pentax, and less expensive especially in plastic mount. Communication from the company promised "this summer." They're in Switzerland, so they can't get away with claiming they meant South African or Australian summer. When (if?) it is released, I hope their QC is a step up from Samyang/Bower/Rokinon/Vivitar, and maybe even better than Ricoh considering the problems some owners have encountered with the K1 and 150~450mm

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Well, the zooms cover pretty much the whole range, but there is a void of complementary slow and fast lenses:
45 f1.8, the 24 70 covers this.
85mm f1.4 (portraiture / low light)
135mm f2 (portraiture / low light)

For landscape, the problem is to carry 2x zooms is rather heavy, and a second bag may be needed, especially for tele., so I'd really be interested in primes as secondary options.
20mm f4 : can complement a 24-70 or 28-105, for occasional wide angle shooting without needing to carry the 15-30.
200 f4 : can complement the 28-105 for occasional long shots.
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The 28-105 is a fine lens for landscape. 1 or two wider primes to go with that and you'd have a pretty light pack.
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Why? That are among best lenses I had in my hands in years.

Firstly because it is not a Pentax lens. Secondly, because we already have a 45/1.8. It is called FA 43/1.9 Limited.....

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QuoteOriginally posted by WPRESTO Quote
My own hope would be a WA prime about 17 to 21mm (better if it's 17~18mm) no more than f2.8, happier if it were only f4 = COMPACT. The 15~30 is an amazing lens from all I've read and seen, but it is SO BIG AND HEAVY for a WA. I accept the inevitability of bulk and mass in a long telephoto whether SFL or zoom, but I would prefer something more compact and light for UWA. RICOH: look at the popularity and cult-following of the 15mm f4. Come up with a 20mm f4 FF lens of similar quality & compact design.
In addition to weight and size, there's the issue of using filter on such a lens; particularly graduated nd filters. Also a zoom such as this is bound to be prone to flare. It's close focusing distance is longer than a prime, not so good for those close near to far images.

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QuoteOriginally posted by biz-engineer Quote
Well, the zooms cover pretty much the whole range, but there is a void of complementary slow and fast lenses:.
Slow and compact FF lenses might not be a priority now as this segment is served by the APS system....

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QuoteOriginally posted by Pål Jensen Quote
Firstly because it is not a Pentax lens. Secondly, because we already have a 45/1.8. It is called FA 43/1.9 Limited.....

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In addition to weight and size, there's the issue of using filter on such a lens; particularly graduated nd filters. Also a zoom such as this is bound to be prone to flare. It's close focusing distance is longer than a prime, not so good for those close near to far images.

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Slow and compact FF lenses might not be a priority now as this segment is served by the APS system....
Well... no. I find ltd43 very nice compact lens with nice IQ, but it can't be compared to that new Tamrons in my opinion. Its loud, not realy fast AF, don't have weather seals, and cost to much, its old design and I think it's not produced anymore. There is a reason why Zeiss took 85 design to use in their own Batis. And AF in that SP85/1.8 is one of best in fast portrait prime. New Tamrons might be Jun Hirakawa opus magnum as he now works for Tamron(and he did designed the 31/43/77 limiteds and some more for Pentax).
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Well... no. I find ltd43 very nice compact lens with nice IQ, but it can't be compared to that new Tamrons in my opinion. Its loud, not realy fast AF, don't have weather seals, and cost to much, its old design and I think it's not produced anymore. There is a reason why Zeiss took 85 design to use in their own Batis. And AF in that SP85/1.8 is one of best in fast portrait prime. New Tamrons might be Jun Hirakawa opus magnum as he now works for Tamron(and he did designed the 31/43/77 limiteds and some more for Pentax).
That may be but the focal length and speed IS being served by Pentax. Pentax have so many holes in their lens line-up that those should be filled first in my opinion. But if rebadging Tamron lenses is a quick way to release lenses - who knows?
BTW the 31 Limited is not designed by Hirakawa.
The Limiteds are in production again.
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That may be but the focal length and speed IS being served by Pentax. Pentax have so many holes in their lens line-up that those should be filled first in my opinion. But if rebadging Tamron lenses is a quick way to release lenses - who knows?
BTW the 31 Limited is not designed by Hirakawa.
The Limiteds are in production again.
Yes my bad-Hirakawa did other 31 design that was rejected. Where did you get the info officialy that old 3 amigos are in new production run, not only repackaged(new silver boxes)?
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Yes my bad-Hirakawa did other 31 design that was rejected. Where did you get the info officialy that old 3 amigos are in new production run, not only repackaged(new silver boxes)?
I got it somewhere on this forum
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