85mm glass...why so expensive? (Not work-safe)

PollitowuzHere · 07-25-2008, 09:31 PM

take that horrid C@non lens away from here you foul heathen!!!! XD

suro · 07-25-2008, 11:53 PM

Originally posted by kenyee

It looks like some lenses that have "nervous" bokeh. I can't say I like it...it's really bizarre looking...

You can always control it

Those effect with rotation appears on the wide maximally open (f1.5-f2.0) and if you have many facture lights (like leaves) on the background

In particular, Helios 40-2 used for woman portraits and the landscape photos

suro · 07-26-2008, 12:22 AM

Just for examply (absolutely random photos):

suro · 07-26-2008, 12:28 AM

Photos made by Tigra Girl:

f1.5

f2.8 (more flat, nop?)

f1.5

*NWS* http://m.foto.radikal.ru/0705/ea/4ef93a95638f.jpg

f4.0

*NWS* http://m.foto.radikal.ru/0705/96/9059fd2f685e.jpg

Last edited by suro; 07-26-2008 at 01:03 AM.

suro · 07-26-2008, 12:50 AM

Helios 40-2 is great, artistic and very cheap lens

Also, I want to buy the Pentax 85* /1.4. Where I can buy it?

And maybe I'll buy Pentax 50-135* /2.8 for quick portraits

suro · 07-26-2008, 02:58 AM

Originally posted by Nick_b

I love my EF 85mm 1.8.... Great size awesome AF and great IQ....

If you love usual photos with classical (boring) bokeh - Canon is your way

kenyee · 07-26-2008, 05:22 AM

I think the weird bokeh happens a lot more w/ busy backgrounds...e.g., even stopped down to 2.8, the tree in the background looks weird:
http://rd.foto.radikal.ru/0708/f3/2d79124ebe34.jpg
and this one does as well:
http://suro.autokvartal.ru/galleries/11333/63754/63754.JPG

Interesting lens though. Varies from "what in the world is that weird background?" to "wow...smooth ultra creamy bokeh" :-)

jsherman999 · 07-26-2008, 10:09 AM

.

The Super Tak 85mm f/1.9 had some wonderful but weird bokeh:

The M 85 has more traditional bokeh, but it can realy 'bleed' colors in the
background, which I find very pleasing:

The Jupiter-9 does strange stuff wide open:

But stopped down 1 (or 2?) it is just beautiful:

PollitowuzHere · 07-26-2008, 02:42 PM

wow, the stopped down Jupiter-9 bokeh is quite beautiful, looks a bit painterly even. Maybe thats the magic of the 85mm prime, the bokeh

Jewelltrail · 07-26-2008, 07:10 PM

Here is one with the Auto Takumar 85mm f 1.8. It almost looks macro cropped with the K20.

Regards

suro · 07-29-2008, 06:50 AM

Link to nice photos from Helios 40-2:

?????? - ?????????? ?????? ?? ?????? 40-2 85 MM F/1.5

My today photo (f1.5):

Jewelltrail · 07-29-2008, 07:25 AM

Quote:

Suro: Link to nice photos from Helios 40-2:

What a great link, with many first-rate shots--fantastic work! The site is a little slow, for me; downloading takes time. But surely worth it--thanks.

Regards

suro · 07-30-2008, 11:40 PM

Another one (I love this lens)

nulla · 07-30-2008, 11:45 PM

Super fine shots Esuro

well done

dnas · 09-24-2009, 03:44 AM

I have two 85mm lenses:

Nikkor AF 85mm f/1.8D
Minolta MD Rokkor 85mm F2

The Nikkor is superb, but the Minolta is better!!!!

I also have a Tamron SP 90mm F2.5, which is pretty good.

07-26-2008, 12:22 AM	#63
suro Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Ekaterinburg Posts: 344	Just for examply (absolutely random photos): Last edited by suro; 07-26-2008 at 02:40 AM.

07-26-2008, 12:50 AM	#65
suro Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Ekaterinburg Posts: 344	Helios 40-2 is great, artistic and very cheap lens Also, I want to buy the Pentax 85* /1.4. Where I can buy it? And maybe I'll buy Pentax 50-135* /2.8 for quick portraits Last edited by suro; 07-26-2008 at 01:01 AM.

07-26-2008, 07:10 PM	#70
Jewelltrail Veteran Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Rhode Island Photos: Albums Posts: 4,180	Here is one with the Auto Takumar 85mm f 1.8. It almost looks macro cropped with the K20. Regards Last edited by Jewelltrail; 08-31-2008 at 07:36 AM.

07-29-2008, 06:50 AM	#71
suro Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Ekaterinburg Posts: 344	Link to nice photos from Helios 40-2: ?????? - ?????????? ?????? ?? ?????? 40-2 85 MM F/1.5 My today photo (f1.5): Last edited by suro; 07-29-2008 at 07:22 AM.

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07-25-2008, 09:31 PM	#61
PollitowuzHere Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 110 Original Poster	take that horrid C@non lens away from here you foul heathen!!!! XD

07-25-2008, 11:53 PM	#62
suro Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Ekaterinburg Posts: 344	Originally posted by kenyee It looks like some lenses that have "nervous" bokeh. I can't say I like it...it's really bizarre looking... You can always control it Those effect with rotation appears on the wide maximally open (f1.5-f2.0) and if you have many facture lights (like leaves) on the background In particular, Helios 40-2 used for woman portraits and the landscape photos

07-26-2008, 12:28 AM	#64
suro Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Ekaterinburg Posts: 344	Photos made by Tigra Girl: f1.5 f2.8 (more flat, nop?) f1.5 NWS http://m.foto.radikal.ru/0705/ea/4ef93a95638f.jpg f4.0 NWS http://m.foto.radikal.ru/0705/96/9059fd2f685e.jpg Last edited by suro; 07-26-2008 at 01:03 AM.

07-26-2008, 02:58 AM	#66
suro Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Ekaterinburg Posts: 344	Originally posted by Nick_b I love my EF 85mm 1.8.... Great size awesome AF and great IQ.... If you love usual photos with classical (boring) bokeh - Canon is your way

07-26-2008, 05:22 AM	#67
kenyee Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Boston, PRofMA Photos: Albums Posts: 3,026	I think the weird bokeh happens a lot more w/ busy backgrounds...e.g., even stopped down to 2.8, the tree in the background looks weird: http://rd.foto.radikal.ru/0708/f3/2d79124ebe34.jpg and this one does as well: http://suro.autokvartal.ru/galleries/11333/63754/63754.JPG Interesting lens though. Varies from "what in the world is that weird background?" to "wow...smooth ultra creamy bokeh" :-)

07-26-2008, 10:09 AM	#68
jsherman999 Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,237	. The Super Tak 85mm f/1.9 had some wonderful but weird bokeh: The M 85 has more traditional bokeh, but it can realy 'bleed' colors in the background, which I find very pleasing: The Jupiter-9 does strange stuff wide open: But stopped down 1 (or 2?) it is just beautiful:

07-26-2008, 02:42 PM	#69
PollitowuzHere Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 110 Original Poster	wow, the stopped down Jupiter-9 bokeh is quite beautiful, looks a bit painterly even. Maybe thats the magic of the 85mm prime, the bokeh

07-29-2008, 07:25 AM	#72
Jewelltrail Veteran Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Rhode Island Photos: Albums Posts: 4,180	Quote: Suro: Link to nice photos from Helios 40-2: What a great link, with many first-rate shots--fantastic work! The site is a little slow, for me; downloading takes time. But surely worth it--thanks. Regards

07-30-2008, 11:40 PM	#73
suro Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Ekaterinburg Posts: 344	Another one (I love this lens)

07-30-2008, 11:45 PM	#74
nulla Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Melbourne Australia Posts: 1,560	Super fine shots Esuro well done

09-24-2009, 03:44 AM	#75
dnas Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Japan (Australian expat) Posts: 179	I have two 85mm lenses: Nikkor AF 85mm f/1.8D Minolta MD Rokkor 85mm F2 The Nikkor is superb, but the Minolta is better!!!! I also have a Tamron SP 90mm F2.5, which is pretty good.