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Mistral75 · 09-09-2016, 04:36 AM

Originally posted by beholder3

I actually think it should be the task of the moderators to push all the endless supply of threads "I wish" and "I think they should" and "I want" and "I hope" into one single collective thread of silly christmas wishes with little to no relevancy to anyone. They are just polluting the rumors section here (and elsewhere).

Mistral75 has been well informed in the past so I am somewhat unsure if he is suggesting something with a real rumor base or if it is just wishful thinking.

There is no wishful thinking in my original post, only facts, then some considerations about cost sharing and a final question.

beholder3 · 09-09-2016, 04:38 AM

Originally posted by Mistral75

There is no wishful thinking in my original post, only facts, then some considerations about cost sharing and a final question.

Then it does not qualify for this section at all:
As a reminder, our News and Rumors forum is only for the discussion of confirmed Pentax or Pentax-related news as well as credible rumors.

Sandy Hancock · 09-09-2016, 04:40 AM

Originally posted by noelpolar

What's this obsession with such huge lenses? I find the FA 31 annoyingly large/heavy!

Says the owner of a DFA150-450

Mistral75 · 09-09-2016, 04:42 AM

Originally posted by beholder3

Then it does not qualify for this section at all:
As a reminder, our News and Rumors forum is only for the discussion of confirmed Pentax or Pentax-related news as well as credible rumors.

Time will tell about credibility

.

Fat Albert · 09-09-2016, 04:59 AM - **2 Likes**

At the very least, your thread title needs a question mark--and probably a whole re-write, to be honest.

pathdoc · 09-09-2016, 05:21 AM

Originally posted by Sandy Hancock

Says the owner of a DFA150-450

I took "...for a wide-angle prime..." as unsaid but understood.

These lenses remind me of that huge Schneider Angulon tilt-shift lens I saw at Camera Lane in Melbourne in February/March. A thing of beauty, but wholly impractical for anyone even thinking of travelling light. And the price... *shudders*

Sandy Hancock · 09-09-2016, 05:30 AM

Originally posted by pathdoc

I took "...for a wide-angle prime..." as unsaid but understood.

Fair enough

Pixelhdr · 09-09-2016, 06:10 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by ogl

No cooperation of Ricoh with Tokina. And I hope all new DFA lenses will be pure Pentax made.

One of the best lens in my collection is the 50-135 which is a joint effort between Pentax and Tokina. I will never sell this lens.

Mistral75 · 09-09-2016, 06:27 AM

Originally posted by Reed

I don't think that Tokina and Hoya/Pentax divorce was made on peacefull agreement...

Originally posted by ogl

No cooperation of Ricoh with Tokina. And I hope all new DFA lenses will be pure Pentax made.

Originally posted by Reed

I would realy want them to partner with Tokina again, more than Tamron to be honest.

You might find interesting to re-read this report made by Pentax Forums staff on February 1st, 2013, it being the first solid rumour / confirmation of what was to become the K-1.

The source was a Tokina employee

.

https://www.pentaxforums.com/articles/cpplus-2013/tokina-confirms-pentax-full...velopment.html

P.S.: I had totally forgotten this report; a friend of mine reminded me of it half an hour ago.

**BigMackCam** · 09-09-2016, 06:42 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by beholder3

I actually think it should be the task of the moderators to push all the endless supply of threads "I wish" and "I think they should" and "I want" and "I hope" into one single collective threa

It's not our job to sort and categorise content; we rely on members to use their best judgement and post in the correct forums. Mostly, that's what happens, but occasionally people unintentionally slip up (I know I do from time to time) and we can step in as and when we become aware.

We certainly don't have time to collate and organise posts - we're kept more than busy; and do bear in mind, we're actively-contributing members too, not just moderators...

ogl · 09-09-2016, 06:46 AM

Originally posted by Mistral75

The source was a Tokina employee

.

Tokina Confirms Pentax Full-frame Under Development - CP+ 2013 | PentaxForums.com

[/I]

It means really nothing. No need to find black cat in dark room, especially, if there is no black cat there.

rangercarp · 09-09-2016, 11:39 AM

A DFA STAR 50mm on the way could explain why Pentax is not considering the DA55 a fully capable FF lens. That struck me as strange when the 55 is widely reported to cover the full frame image circle, yet they did not include it with the longer primes as fully supported. Just a thought...

D1N0 · 09-09-2016, 11:45 AM

Originally posted by rangercarp

A DFA STAR 50mm on the way could explain why Pentax is not considering the DA55 a fully capable FF lens. That struck me as strange when the 55 is widely reported to cover the full frame image circle, yet they did not include it with the longer primes as fully supported. Just a thought...

because it is not so sharp around the edges.

Racer X 69 · 09-09-2016, 11:49 AM

Originally posted by Mistral75

At Tokina?

At any business that manufactures something to sell. They develop concepts, solicit investments, then manufacture and market the products.

It takes capital, and most businesses don't have buckets of cash lying about.

Racer X 69 · 09-09-2016, 11:50 AM

Originally posted by beholder3

Mistral75 has been well informed in the past so I am somewhat unsure if he is suggesting something with a real rumor base or if it is just wishful thinking.

Well he did say he was dreaming or something........

09-09-2016, 06:27 AM	#24
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527 Original Poster	Originally posted by Reed I don't think that Tokina and Hoya/Pentax divorce was made on peacefull agreement... Originally posted by ogl No cooperation of Ricoh with Tokina. And I hope all new DFA lenses will be pure Pentax made. Originally posted by Reed I would realy want them to partner with Tokina again, more than Tamron to be honest. You might find interesting to re-read this report made by Pentax Forums staff on February 1st, 2013, it being the first solid rumour / confirmation of what was to become the K-1. The source was a Tokina employee . https://www.pentaxforums.com/articles/cpplus-2013/tokina-confirms-pentax-full...velopment.html P.S.: I had totally forgotten this report; a friend of mine reminded me of it half an hour ago. Last edited by Mistral75; 09-09-2016 at 06:34 AM.

09-09-2016, 06:42 AM - 1 Like	#25
BigMackCam Digitiser of Film Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: North East of England Posts: 20,661	Originally posted by beholder3 I actually think it should be the task of the moderators to push all the endless supply of threads "I wish" and "I think they should" and "I want" and "I hope" into one single collective threa It's not our job to sort and categorise content; we rely on members to use their best judgement and post in the correct forums. Mostly, that's what happens, but occasionally people unintentionally slip up (I know I do from time to time) and we can step in as and when we become aware. We certainly don't have time to collate and organise posts - we're kept more than busy; and do bear in mind, we're actively-contributing members too, not just moderators... Last edited by BigMackCam; 09-09-2016 at 06:47 AM.

09-09-2016, 11:39 AM	#27
rangercarp Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Southern Michigan Posts: 437	A DFA STAR 50mm on the way could explain why Pentax is not considering the DA55 a fully capable FF lens. That struck me as strange when the 55 is widely reported to cover the full frame image circle, yet they did not include it with the longer primes as fully supported. Just a thought... Last edited by rangercarp; 09-09-2016 at 11:40 AM. Reason: typo

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09-09-2016, 04:36 AM	#16
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527 Original Poster	Originally posted by beholder3 I actually think it should be the task of the moderators to push all the endless supply of threads "I wish" and "I think they should" and "I want" and "I hope" into one single collective thread of silly christmas wishes with little to no relevancy to anyone. They are just polluting the rumors section here (and elsewhere). Mistral75 has been well informed in the past so I am somewhat unsure if he is suggesting something with a real rumor base or if it is just wishful thinking. There is no wishful thinking in my original post, only facts, then some considerations about cost sharing and a final question.

09-09-2016, 04:38 AM	#17
beholder3 Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 3,112	Originally posted by Mistral75 There is no wishful thinking in my original post, only facts, then some considerations about cost sharing and a final question. Then it does not qualify for this section at all: As a reminder, our News and Rumors forum is only for the discussion of confirmed Pentax or Pentax-related news as well as credible rumors.

09-09-2016, 04:40 AM	#18
Sandy Hancock Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Adelaide Hills, South Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,272	Originally posted by noelpolar What's this obsession with such huge lenses? I find the FA 31 annoyingly large/heavy! Says the owner of a DFA150-450

09-09-2016, 04:42 AM	#19
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527 Original Poster	Originally posted by beholder3 Then it does not qualify for this section at all: As a reminder, our News and Rumors forum is only for the discussion of confirmed Pentax or Pentax-related news as well as credible rumors. Time will tell about credibility .

09-09-2016, 04:59 AM - 2 Likes	#20
Fat Albert Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 966	At the very least, your thread title needs a question mark--and probably a whole re-write, to be honest.

09-09-2016, 05:21 AM	#21
pathdoc Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2015 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,381	Originally posted by Sandy Hancock Says the owner of a DFA150-450 I took "...for a wide-angle prime..." as unsaid but understood. These lenses remind me of that huge Schneider Angulon tilt-shift lens I saw at Camera Lane in Melbourne in February/March. A thing of beauty, but wholly impractical for anyone even thinking of travelling light. And the price... shudders

09-09-2016, 05:30 AM	#22
Sandy Hancock Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Adelaide Hills, South Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,272	Originally posted by pathdoc I took "...for a wide-angle prime..." as unsaid but understood. Fair enough

09-09-2016, 06:10 AM - 1 Like	#23
Pixelhdr Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 90	Originally posted by ogl No cooperation of Ricoh with Tokina. And I hope all new DFA lenses will be pure Pentax made. One of the best lens in my collection is the 50-135 which is a joint effort between Pentax and Tokina. I will never sell this lens.

09-09-2016, 06:46 AM	#26
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Originally posted by Mistral75 The source was a Tokina employee . Tokina Confirms Pentax Full-frame Under Development - CP+ 2013 \| PentaxForums.com [/I] It means really nothing. No need to find black cat in dark room, especially, if there is no black cat there.

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D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,802	Originally posted by rangercarp A DFA STAR 50mm on the way could explain why Pentax is not considering the DA55 a fully capable FF lens. That struck me as strange when the 55 is widely reported to cover the full frame image circle, yet they did not include it with the longer primes as fully supported. Just a thought... because it is not so sharp around the edges.

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09-09-2016, 11:49 AM	#29
Racer X 69 Moderator Man With A Camera Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: The Great Pacific Northwet, in the Land Between Canada and Mexico Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,064	Originally posted by Mistral75 At Tokina? At any business that manufactures something to sell. They develop concepts, solicit investments, then manufacture and market the products. It takes capital, and most businesses don't have buckets of cash lying about.

09-09-2016, 11:50 AM	#30
Racer X 69 Moderator Man With A Camera Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: The Great Pacific Northwet, in the Land Between Canada and Mexico Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,064	Originally posted by beholder3 Mistral75 has been well informed in the past so I am somewhat unsure if he is suggesting something with a real rumor base or if it is just wishful thinking. Well he did say he was dreaming or something........