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08-25-2008, 08:25 AM   #16
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from first shots it seems to be less sharp of A*.
I try to make shots with accurate focus.

wath do you think?

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Thanks for the tests Angelo, now I'm writing now from my holidays. I've not had the A* to compare as you have, but have been doing a lot of T* shooting and can say that Klaus at Photozone is correct in his description of the lens being 'dreamy' at 1.4. I can't say 'soft' exactly, because on targets where the plane of focus is flatter, there is sharp detail, but as your test shows, the T* has a glow, a diffusion in the contrast. Rather than use the word soft with its connotations, I'd use gentle It is also very shallow DoF and from tele ranges, it can be somewhat of a challenge to hit the focal plane exactly wide open. Similar to the Voigtlander Nokton, once the lens is stopped down to 2.4 or 2.8, this trait disappears and the lens is a razor. FWIW, I appreciate the ability to generate this 'effect' with the 85, as with the Nokton for the artistic shooting I prefer. For those shooting strictly for high detail at all apertures, it could be something they disapprove of.

Generally thus far I've been on a learning curve with shooting a fast 85. I'm used to close-focus type shooting and this lens is not the same at all. I would describe the experience as 'big-bokeh'. Human sized subjects granted the oof isolation usually reserved for smaller, closer focused type subjects. In my type of shooting I've been learning a new way to see with the lens, rather than having another tool to use in ways I have previously worked. I promise lots of samples once I'm home and can offload these memory cards. My initially conclusion is the T* is a very capable, but somewhat specialized tool (especially on APS-C). I think on a FF sensor, the wider FoV (that of a 58 currently) would really extend the 'general' use of this lens.

edit: my 85 is pictured in my sig, a quick shot of my Cosina glass I shot before I left
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thanks for the photos angelodn! look forward to more photos :/
looks like you didn't get any of the QC issues like some other users

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thanks pirate and k100d.
sure to appreciate the lens I have to use more and more...

other photos of test...
08-26-2008, 03:12 AM   #21
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Wow, the bokeh with f1.4 is really impressive. I love it. Thanks for showing the wonderful images here.
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pentax f1.4


zeiss f1.4


pentax f2


zeiss f2


pentax f4


zeiss f4


pentax f5.6


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pentax f8


zeiss f8


pentax f11


zeiss f11


pentax f16


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pentax f2


zeiss f2


pentax f4


zeiss f4


pentax f8


zeiss f8


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08-26-2008, 06:35 AM   #25
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for lovers of light bokeh

pentax f1.4


zeiss f1.4


pentax f2


zeiss f2


pentax f4


zeiss f4


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08-26-2008, 06:37 AM   #26
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varius photos....

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zeiss f1.4


zeiss f4


zeiss f16


zeiss f1.4


zeiss f1.4


zeiss f1.4


zeiss f1.4


zeiss f4.5


zeiss f8
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Your picture of the girl w/Zeiss @ f1.4 is a good example of the detail available wide open, and how the diffused contrast on the edges of her skin and in her hair can be advantageous. Your other bokeh shots are very nice as well!
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the two lenses look almost identical to me :|
only notice the PF at 1.4 on the pentax and it seems the pentax is darker / has more contrast
thanks for taking more photos ... are you going to keep them both?
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thanks...

k100d, I don't know...I have the 77limited too....
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The Zeiss has marginally better bokeh rendering, but I love the colours of the Pentax lens!

I'd go for the 'tax over the Zeiss, IMO.
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