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12-13-2016, 08:03 PM   #31
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It doesn't look like your 24-70 is holding you back. Do you feel like it's holding you back in a particular dimension?
To be honest I can't say since I have only had the K1 and this lens for about 5 weeks. I am learning more about the camera and lens each time I take photos and challenging myself even to take photo I usually don't. I am thinking it is getting better but don't have anything to compare it to that I can use on my K1.

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That 24-70 does pretty good.

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primes are like kids.... You never add up the total cost)
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QuoteOriginally posted by mhsp1948 Quote
To be honest I can't say since I have only had the K1 and this lens for about 5 weeks. I am learning more about the camera and lens each time I take photos and challenging myself even to take photo I usually don't. I am thinking it is getting better but don't have anything to compare it to that I can use on my K1.
If you wanted a rendering that was more 'classic' or if the vignetting was bothering you, or if you needed a couple of extra stops of light when taking portraits at night or something else, it'd be easier to recommend something. I suggest playing with the 24-70 more, then let us know where you think it fall short.
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If you wanted a rendering that was more 'classic' or if the vignetting was bothering you, or if you needed a couple of extra stops of light when taking portraits at night or something else, it'd be easier to recommend something. I suggest playing with the 24-70 more, then let us know where you think it fall short.
Yes lithedreamer, after reading all of the comments on this thread, I know I need to work with the 24-70 and learn it so I can then make a better judgement on what I would really need. I really appreciate the impute everyone who posted, it really does help.

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Ok I'm back.... having read a bit more of this thread, I think your soul should experience a "tactile" lens..... being the son of an artist.

So I recommend a good SMC K50/1.2. Put this on your camera and go into the world and see what it brings forth. Maybe the K85/1.8 after that......
(don't get sidetracked with an A50/1.2.... not tactile enough for true soul searching....ie a lens for craft....not art)

K50/1.2

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Ok I'm back.... having read a bit more of this thread, I think your soul should experience a "tactile" lens..... being the son of an artist.

So I recommend a good SMC K50/1.2. Put this on your camera and go into the world and see what it brings forth. Maybe the K85/1.8 after that......
(don't get sidetracked with an A50/1.2.... not tactile enough for true soul searching....ie a lens for craft....not art)

K50/1.2
That is cool and you are too funny noelpolar
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surfar, love you statement, it put it all in perspective as far as cost is concerned.


Want to thank everyone who responded, I do appreciate it. Thanks again
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lithedreamer, if I wanted a rendering that was more 'classic' than the 24-70 provides what would it be?

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lithedreamer, if I wanted a rendering that was more 'classic' than the 24-70 provides what would it be?
One or more of the FA Limited (31mm, 43mm, 77mm) lenses. The lack of HD coating means you get more flare, but you also get stronger starbursts when the lens is stopped down. There's more chromatic aberrations in high contrast scenes, but it produces a look that just feels more like film. It's less clinical.
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One or more of the FA Limited (31mm, 43mm, 77mm) lenses. The lack of HD coating means you get more flare, but you also get stronger starbursts when the lens is stopped down. There's more chromatic aberrations in high contrast scenes, but it produces a look that just feels more like film. It's less clinical.
Thanks, I appreciate the info. I will be trying a 50 and 58 Hellios lens I own soon. I know it will be all manual, but it will let me compare something with my 24-70.
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Here are two photos one from my K3-II and K1

First photo was K3-II with the 20-40mm limited hand held. This painting is hanging on a wall and to be fair the sun was not as bright coming through the window that was to the left of the painting. because of the clouds blocking the sun at times and also the f/4 due to being set on 40mm. The settings were ISO 400 40mm 0ev f/4 1/5.

Second photo was K1 with 20-70mm f/2.8. The settings were ISO 400 40mm 0ev f/2.8 1/4.

I am not that pleased with the vignetting with the vignetting of the 20-40mm or the 24-70mm, but was very please with being able to hand hold both cameras and lens and not have blurred photos as slow as the shutter speed was. All this said I will look for an 85mm or 77mm prime for my K1 for portraits and might get the 31mm for my K3-II. I am learning the Pentax and lenses. Only been with Pentax for 13 months and I am pleased.
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With regards to your initial question, I can't imagine one prime working well for portrait and landscape on a k1.

That being said, I'd focus on the portrait first as lens quality tends to stand out most on the wide open shots, which you are more likely to take portraits. Landscapes are typically taken at smaller apertures, and even lower quality lenses will be decent at f8 or f11.

So... I'd probably go for a 77, 100, or 135.

With respect to later posts, it is worth using your 24-70 a lot and then surveying your shots with it to see where you are finding you need more... speed, rendering, sharpness, or focal length.
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With regards to your initial question, I can't imagine one prime working well for portrait and landscape on a k1.

That being said, I'd focus on the portrait first as lens quality tends to stand out most on the wide open shots, which you are more likely to take portraits. Landscapes are typically taken at smaller apertures, and even lower quality lenses will be decent at f8 or f11.

So... I'd probably go for a 77, 100, or 135.

With respect to later posts, it is worth using your 24-70 a lot and then surveying your shots with it to see where you are finding you need more... speed, rendering, sharpness, or focal length.
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