To whom Pentax sells designs?

Jeff Lopez · 02-10-2017, 05:12 PM

on Feb. 6, Thom said that Pentax was a clear leader on lenses, alhough they were selling their designs to others..
To who, besides Tokina?

**boriscleto** · 02-10-2017, 05:28 PM

The Tokina deal was a longtime ago. Now they buy designs from Tamron...(15-30, 24-70, 18-270)

Other recent designs are all Pentax and aren't sold to anyone else. (16-85, 28-105, 70-200, 150-450, etc)

**jatrax** · 02-10-2017, 05:29 PM

Who is "Thom"?

tvdtvdtvd · 02-10-2017, 05:30 PM

Link? I recall reading that statement at some point, but I thought he was referring to Pentax' past, not the present.

stevebrot · 02-10-2017, 05:31 PM

Originally posted by jatrax

Who is "Thom"?

Nikon-centric blogger, Thom Hogan.

Steve

tvdtvdtvd · 02-10-2017, 05:38 PM

An amusing blast from the past:
2009 Predictions by Thom Hogan

Note to self: Never, ever take investment advice from Thom.

Adam · 02-10-2017, 05:42 PM

Nobody, at the moment, AFAIK.

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Jeff Lopez · 02-10-2017, 05:51 PM

Originally posted by tvdtvdtvd

An amusing blast from the past:
2009 Predictions by Thom Hogan

Note to self: Never, ever take investment advice from Thom.

I'll take that advice at heart..it seems theres some remorse against Pentax and Olympus on his site..

**monochrome** · 02-10-2017, 05:52 PM

Originally posted by tvdtvdtvd

An amusing blast from the past:
2009 Predictions by Thom Hogan

Note to self: Never, ever take investment advice from Thom.

"Pentax and Olympus seem particularly vulnerable to me as long term DSLR players at this point (I consider Fujifilm already gone). Sigma will stubbornly motor on and waste time and resources that could have been put into dominating lenses. Apparently they think "entrepreneurial" means trying to topple the big boys with small guns. Samsung and Panasonic both want to be Sony so they'll likely soldier on, indeed they have to be coveting Pentax and Olympus assets, respectively. Panasonic's awkward 4/3 alliance with Olympus produces as much a competitor as it does an ally, and I'm pretty sure Panasonic doesn't really like splitting whatever share 4/3 grabs with another player. With Panasonic buying Sanyo, this increases the pressure on Olympus, as now Panasonic will own the contract manufacturer Olympus has been using."

Jeff Lopez · 02-10-2017, 05:53 PM

Originally posted by tvdtvdtvd

Link? I recall reading that statement at some point, but I thought he was referring to Pentax' past, not the present.

Some Irreverent Answers to Serious Questions | DSLRBodies | Thom Hogan

pretty recent..

tvdtvdtvd · 02-10-2017, 06:15 PM

Originally posted by Jeff Lopez

Some Irreverent Answers to Serious Questions | DSLRBodies | Thom Hogan

pretty recent..

Thank you.

"Pentax was at times a clear leader in lens designs, and was selling those designs to others, though this seems to have tempered in the recent past."

Operative word is 'was'. Past tense, Pentax used to sell their designs.

Na Horuk · 02-10-2017, 06:50 PM

What about non-photography lenses? I guess Pentax no longer makes lenses for medical equipment (Hoya kept that, right?), but they still make surveillance lenses, telescopes, binoculars, no? If you count all of those lenses, it might add up to bigger numbers than looking at... DA limited lenses, for example.

**baldeagle21b** · 02-11-2017, 05:15 AM

> I guess Pentax no longer makes lenses for medical equipment (Hoya kept that, right?), but they still make surveillance lenses, telescopes, binoculars, no?

Binoculars, Spotting scopes yes still, I think. Astronomy refractors no, unfortunately.

stevebrot · 02-12-2017, 01:05 PM

Originally posted by tvdtvdtvd

Thank you.

"Pentax was at times a clear leader in lens designs, and was selling those designs to others, though this seems to have tempered in the recent past."

Operative word is 'was'. Past tense, Pentax used to sell their designs.

Or at least Thom believes they did. Collaborative development with licensing is a time-honored tradition for many classes of goods and many, many high quality products are made this way.

Steve

**monochrome** · 02-12-2017, 01:16 PM

Originally posted by baldeagle21b

> I guess Pentax no longer makes lenses for medical equipment (Hoya kept that, right?), but they still make surveillance lenses, telescopes, binoculars, no?

Binoculars, Spotting scopes yes still, I think. Astronomy refractors no, unfortunately.

Depends what we call Pentax. B2B lines such as CCTV, machine vision and surveillance lenses may or may not still be around, marketed by Ricoh under Pentax FA brand?

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boriscleto Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: North Syracuse, NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 16,475	The Tokina deal was a longtime ago. Now they buy designs from Tamron...(15-30, 24-70, 18-270) Other recent designs are all Pentax and aren't sold to anyone else. (16-85, 28-105, 70-200, 150-450, etc)

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tvdtvdtvd Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,665	Link? I recall reading that statement at some point, but I thought he was referring to Pentax' past, not the present.

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stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by jatrax Who is "Thom"? Nikon-centric blogger, Thom Hogan. Steve

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tvdtvdtvd Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,665	An amusing blast from the past: 2009 Predictions by Thom Hogan Note to self: Never, ever take investment advice from Thom.

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Jeff Lopez Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Posts: 531 Original Poster	Originally posted by tvdtvdtvd An amusing blast from the past: 2009 Predictions by Thom Hogan Note to self: Never, ever take investment advice from Thom. I'll take that advice at heart..it seems theres some remorse against Pentax and Olympus on his site..

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monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by tvdtvdtvd An amusing blast from the past: 2009 Predictions by Thom Hogan Note to self: Never, ever take investment advice from Thom. "Pentax and Olympus seem particularly vulnerable to me as long term DSLR players at this point (I consider Fujifilm already gone). Sigma will stubbornly motor on and waste time and resources that could have been put into dominating lenses. Apparently they think "entrepreneurial" means trying to topple the big boys with small guns. Samsung and Panasonic both want to be Sony so they'll likely soldier on, indeed they have to be coveting Pentax and Olympus assets, respectively. Panasonic's awkward 4/3 alliance with Olympus produces as much a competitor as it does an ally, and I'm pretty sure Panasonic doesn't really like splitting whatever share 4/3 grabs with another player. With Panasonic buying Sanyo, this increases the pressure on Olympus, as now Panasonic will own the contract manufacturer Olympus has been using."

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Jeff Lopez Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Posts: 531 Original Poster	Originally posted by tvdtvdtvd Link? I recall reading that statement at some point, but I thought he was referring to Pentax' past, not the present. Some Irreverent Answers to Serious Questions \| DSLRBodies \| Thom Hogan pretty recent..

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tvdtvdtvd Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,665	Originally posted by Jeff Lopez Some Irreverent Answers to Serious Questions \| DSLRBodies \| Thom Hogan pretty recent.. Thank you. "Pentax was at times a clear leader in lens designs, and was selling those designs to others, though this seems to have tempered in the recent past." Operative word is 'was'. Past tense, Pentax used to sell their designs.

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Na Horuk Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Slovenia, probably Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,186	What about non-photography lenses? I guess Pentax no longer makes lenses for medical equipment (Hoya kept that, right?), but they still make surveillance lenses, telescopes, binoculars, no? If you count all of those lenses, it might add up to bigger numbers than looking at... DA limited lenses, for example.

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baldeagle21b Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 223	> I guess Pentax no longer makes lenses for medical equipment (Hoya kept that, right?), but they still make surveillance lenses, telescopes, binoculars, no? Binoculars, Spotting scopes yes still, I think. Astronomy refractors no, unfortunately.

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stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by tvdtvdtvd Thank you. "Pentax was at times a clear leader in lens designs, and was selling those designs to others, though this seems to have tempered in the recent past." Operative word is 'was'. Past tense, Pentax used to sell their designs. Or at least Thom believes they did. Collaborative development with licensing is a time-honored tradition for many classes of goods and many, many high quality products are made this way. Steve

02-12-2017, 01:16 PM	#15
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by baldeagle21b > I guess Pentax no longer makes lenses for medical equipment (Hoya kept that, right?), but they still make surveillance lenses, telescopes, binoculars, no? Binoculars, Spotting scopes yes still, I think. Astronomy refractors no, unfortunately. Depends what we call Pentax. B2B lines such as CCTV, machine vision and surveillance lenses may or may not still be around, marketed by Ricoh under Pentax FA brand?