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02-28-2017, 06:46 AM   #16
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Good looking shots!

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Any lens with shift capability is a massive advantage for architecture. Such a shame there are so few available for K mount.
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QuoteOriginally posted by HankVonHeaven Quote
Good looking shots!
Thank you! It's 90% just being there.

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Any lens with shift capability is a massive advantage for architecture. Such a shame there are so few available for K mount.
I honestly hadn't thought about it until just now, but you're absolutely right. I hate taking photos and only realizing later that my perspective was just slightly askew.
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Any lens with shift capability is a massive advantage for architecture. Such a shame there are so few available for K mount.
For sure. I always try to take advantage of the in body composition adjustment on the K mount bodies - it helps but if I'm being picky you still end up doing way more in post in some situations.

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Any lens with shift capability is a massive advantage for architecture...
Though not so much for interiors.

The ongoing discussions regarding rectilinear ultrawide lenses for FF puzzle me, particularly in regard to architectural work and interiors. Low lineal distortion is not the same as accurate portrayal. Area distortion (aka volume anamorphosis), warping of curved lines beyond that attributable to perspective, and bizarre perspective are often the unhappy side effects of having to "fit everything in".* A less severe FOV combined with creative framing is often preferable unless one is aiming for novelty. Just my humble opinion


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* It is not unusual to see water flowing uphill or cars with one side longer than the other with view camera work. More pertinent to this thread is one of the example photos above where there is an apparent "wavy" ceiling due to anomalous rendering of the light fixtures that escaped correction in PP.
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It is not unusual to see water flowing uphill or cars with one side longer than the other with view camera work. More pertinent to this thread is one of the example photos above where there is an apparent "wavy" ceiling due to anomalous rendering of the light fixtures that escaped correction in PP.
I'm hoping that someone will develop a correction profile for the IRIX, as the default tools in Lightroom are more or less limited to basic barrel distortion and horizonal/vertical corrections, and it's tiring to apply these by eye each time. At some point it's a matter of Effort In vs Result Out.

But now I'm self-conscious. I'll have to give them another pass.

re: rectilinear UWA lenses, it's partially a matter of end goals. Most of the time, the photos exist to draw interest and sell a product. UWA shots exaggerate space in a compelling way and provide spacial context for the surrounding environment that no amount of creative framing with a 35mm can reproduce. I think it's important to provide a mix of fields of view, so I will generally provide 35-50mm handheld shots for details and fixtures on top of the 'show me the room' shots. I feel it works well.

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QuoteOriginally posted by stevebrot Quote
Though not so much for interiors.
True, though for interiors Tilt is much more useful, mainly for its ability to extend DOF when using near-far compositions that are commonly used to give a sense of depth and spaciousness to interiors.

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Area distortion (aka volume anamorphosis), warping of curved lines beyond that attributable to perspective, and bizarre perspective are often the unhappy side effects of having to "fit everything in"
I agree, I have worked with the Canon EF TS-E 17mm f/4L lens and I find that lenses rendering characteristic draws far too much attention to itself. I have a preference for using the EF TS-E 24mm f/3.5L II due to the more neutral perspective - not to mention its superior control over distortion.
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Looks great kvetcha

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But now I'm self-conscious. I'll have to give them another pass.
The photos look great and I was not intending to be critical. As you pointed out, tight spaces make it hard. I suspect that many of the commercial brochures for cabinets and decor use open-sided sets rather than "real" rooms to allow for longer focal lengths.


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QuoteOriginally posted by Digitalis Quote
I have worked with the Canon EF TS-E 17mm f/4L lens and I find that lenses rendering characteristic draws far too much attention to itself. I have a preference for using the EF TS-E 24mm f/3.5L II due to the more neutral perspective - not to mention its superior control over distortion.
I have been curious regarding the TS-E 17mm and figured that the wide FOV is probably a little over the top even with perspective correction.


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I can confirm that even with corrections, the TS-E 17mm f/4L is over the top.
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The photos look great and I was not intending to be critical. As you pointed out, tight spaces make it hard. I suspect that many of the commercial brochures for cabinets and decor use open-sided sets rather than "real" rooms to allow for longer focal lengths.
Cheers, and I don't mind constructive criticism! I definitely ran into a few instances where I could tell something was a wee bit off but the tools I had weren't granular enough to do a whole lot about it. The overall effect is fine for its intended use (a contractor's website), but I would certainly like to continue to hone my technique over time. Comments are always appreciated.
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Quick update: I shot a message to Irix and they confirmed they are working on Lightroom lens correction profiles. So that's good.
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