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08-11-2008, 09:28 AM   #31
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My personal advice is to pick from one of the following two options:

1. Sell off the 18-55 and whatever else you might need to and get the 18-250. That plus one of the primes for indoor use would be all you'd need to get tons of great photos.

2. Keep everything you have, get a 50-200, which is nice and small & light and complements the 18-55 very well, and have some money left over. Take those two and a prime.

As for the prime, I'd probably the 50 just because it is the fastest, and quite useful for people shots, shots of specific objects indoors, etc. Sure, the 30 is wider, but not wide enough to take in a whole room, though. At f/3.5, the 18-55 is actuall fast enough to do a semi-decent job. Sure, it's not as sharp as it could be at that focal length and aperture, but then, at the higher ISO you would be shooting in anyhow (you weren't planning on carrying a tripod around, were you?), you're already sacrificing more detail there.

08-11-2008, 02:13 PM   #32
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QuoteOriginally posted by virgilr Quote
I think I may have to really stick with the super-budget option: take the kit 18-55, and try and find something like a DA 50-200 either here or on Ebay: Not liking sample shots of the tammy 70-300mm that I've seen online.
check out the thread at the bottom of my post... there are some very good shots with the 70-300... it is very capable, but with a large amount of CA/PF. Most of the time though that I've used it, it has performed well so long as I'm willing to put in a bit more processing time. With the money left over, you could also get the Sigma 24-60 f2.8 from amazon through cameta camera for around 220 ish. I have this lens and have been pretty happy with it, but I think I prefer the out of your budget Tamron 28-75. But for the money, you can't beat this zoom if you want something faster and sharper than the kit. I find this focal range very good for walking around, but I am usually also carrying the zenitar fisheye or the 12-24 if I need to go really wide.

The downsides to this combo would be that 24 and wider would be absent...which to me, would be bad. But for people shots, the Sigma would serve you well.

if you buy the tammy and the sigma new, you'll end up around 50 bux overbudget, but you'll have everything but the superwide covered. If you can get these lightly used, you could be right on track.

https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-slr-lens-discussion/23557-you-wont...-i-bought.html
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hi,

QuoteOriginally posted by jamonation Quote
Super/SMC Takumar's for the win! Admittedly not the most portable in comparison to modern lenses, but you have to figure they worked for most Pentax users for 20-30+ years. Maybe our current standards for portability are to some extent somewhat high?

For $300, you could get a combination of the following:
  1. $25 for genuine m42 adapter
  2. $40-70 for a 28mm f3.5 Takumar
  3. $40-90 for a 50mm f1.4 Takumar
  4. $10-25 for a 55mm 1.8 Takumar
  5. $15-40 for a 135mm f3.5 Takumar
  6. $20-60 for a 200mm f4 Takumar
  7. $200 for a 16mm f2.8 Zenitar Fish Eye

Edit: was writing this up when your post came in above, disregard
That's an awful lot of lenses. Forget about the weight/volume/portability issue - what about convenience ?

I can almost guarantee that you won't be using all 6 lenses because it's too much pain to change them every 4th shot. And dust will get into your sensor when you change lenses in the field so frequently.

Maybe if you have more than 1 body it starts to make sense to carry so many primes, but otherwise I don't really see it.
08-11-2008, 06:31 PM   #34
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QuoteOriginally posted by madbrain Quote
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That's an awful lot of lenses. Forget about the weight/volume/portability issue - what about convenience ?

I can almost guarantee that you won't be using all 6 lenses because it's too much pain to change them every 4th shot. And dust will get into your sensor when you change lenses in the field so frequently.

Maybe if you have more than 1 body it starts to make sense to carry so many primes, but otherwise I don't really see it.
even with multiple bodies, i would (and do) go out with the sigma 10-20 on one and the tamron 28-75 F2.8 on the other.

As I said earlier, unless you include wild life, you can get buy with this pairing. any of the "super zooms, or even a respectible 16-45 or 16-50 is not wide enough. I spent years frustrated that 24 mm was not wide enough on a film slr, and that is the same field of view as a 16 on a DSLR.

Before I got the sigma 10-20, I used the 18-35 FA-J kit lens from my *istD, but with a slight adjustment, I used it on my PZ-1. I shot a combination of film for wide angle shots and digital for normal to tele shots until I got the 10-20.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Lowell Goudge Quote
even with multiple bodies, i would (and do) go out with the sigma 10-20 on one and the tamron 28-75 F2.8 on the other.
That's why I'm thinking that my next major purchase will be another body of some sort. I'm waiting to see what Pentax announces at Photokina before deciding exactly what to do. If they come out with a "baby" Pentax body (ie--K2000D) and I like the specs and price on it, that'll be the way I'll go; if not, then I'll see about a used older body--most likely something in the K100 series.

Back to the OP, I saw a great deal on Fleabay for a new 16-45 from Prodigital 2000 that's going for about the same price as used ones I've seen:
PENTAX SMC DA 16-45mm F4.0 ED/AL LENS NEW f/K20D K200D - eBay (item 140256666656 end time Aug-15-08 18:24:44 PDT)

If you can swing it, I really think it would be worth your while to pick up this lens and a 50-200, even if it means saving for a little bit longer.

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Went the cheap route

Well, I found a brand-new in box Tamron 28-105mm f/4-5.6 IF here in Montreal for 65.00. The dealer was cool enough to let me test it with my K100D super. I found that walking around the neighborhood (I had to leave them my drivers license, but that was cool of them!) I found it had enough reach for the type of shooting I like to do, and having 28mm at the wide end is nice so I don't have to change out to my kit 18-55mm all the time.

It's a cheap-o lens, I know, but with a bit of work in Lightroom I've found I can get some decent results: a contrast/clarity bump with a bit of sharpening and the results aren't half bad! Seems pretty sharp at 105mm, too, even at f/5.6 28mm is pretty soft wide open, but not bad at f/8.0 or f/11

This is an interim purchase- really paid next to nothing for this, and I'll use it for now and try and build up some cash in the old Paypal via Ebay and look into a 18-250mm, or a 16-45mm with a 50-200mm.

Thanks everybody for the advice!

Here's a couple shots after some work in Lightroom:






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I live and work (travel extensively all over) in Europe and my main lens is the Tamron 18-250. I think the 18 is wide enough for98% of most shots, and the fairly long zoom does come in handy.

Paris is not a village, its a huge wide open city, I think you'd find the 18-250 or something beginning at 18 at plenty wide enough.

Of course this is just my opinion, but it comes from lots of personal experience.

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If you can drum up the cash for the 18-250, then that's definitely the way to go. My next option would be the Tamron 28-300, but I found a big difference between 18mm and 28mm (much moreso than the difference between 250mm and 300mm) so I sold my 28-300 and kept the 18-250.

Who are you traveling with, and what's the focus of the trip? If you're alone, or your travel partner is also a photographer, then you won't really mind changing lenses occasionally. However, if your travel partner is going to see Europe and not search for the perfect shot, then the 18-250 is perfect. I took it to Peru as my only lens and honestly didn't feel like I missed a shot I wanted. You can always come up with a shot that your current kit won't take, so take the shots you can and enjoy the trip!

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