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05-04-2017, 05:58 PM   #16
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How do you like that Sun 85-210mm?

I recently got an m42 Sun f/2.5 28mm. I wanted to get a cheap 28 to add to my little kit of m42 primes, and this one, from what little I could find out, was one that had some character. My first tests, using it on dslr showed it a bit hit-or-miss when shooting it wide open, but at f/4 it is quite amazing, and dependable. I'm shooting it on a film body now. I really knew nothing about Sun lenses until I started reading up on that one before buying it.
It's certainly unique.

Although, photos with it tend to be overexposed, it has good clarity and detail.

Here's my favorite picture taken with it:


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Here's the best picture I've gotten so far with the Autofocus Adaptall2 Takumar lens:

(This is through a window on a rainy day...)

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New acquisitions!

And demonstration of my budget claim:

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The mirror F8 is quite nicebut use a support if you put it on a Q!

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The mirror F8 is quite nicebut use a support if you put it on a Q!
But then the Q would no longer be mirrorless :-P

And for the record, I only have the K-S1.
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And for the record, I only have the K-S1.
If ya wanta get close get a Q, the best teleconverter invented!
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Here's another image from the weird AF Adaptall Tamron:

The autofocus works, to some degree, but it's slow and finicky. Almost more interesting as a historical artifact than an actual lens.
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OK Tim, you show a lot of budget lenses, so what did they cost?

Is it really a lens kit on a budget?

The reason I ask is I have what i consider a budget kit of M42 lenses,

The whole collection is as follows

Zenitar 16/2.8 fisheye
Tamron adaptall 2. 24/2.5
Tamron adaptall 2. 28/2.5
Vivitar 28/2.5
SMC tak 35/2
Super tak 50/1.4 (8 element)
SMC macro tak 50/4
Super tak 55/1.8
SMC tak 55/2
Helios 58/2
Super tak 85/1.9
Tamron adaptall 2 90/2.5 macro
Vernon edonar 105/2.8 preset
Super tak 135/3.5
SMC tak 135/3.5
tele lentar 135/2.8 preset
Sigma 135/2.8
Tokina 180/3.5 preset
Takumar 200/3.5 preset
SMC tak 200/4
Sigma 200/4 preset
Nikkor H 300/4.3 (converted to M42)

All in I think I am at $1290 cdn

Considering lenses like the 85/1.9 and the zenitar were about 200 each it is a very inexpensive collection

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Here's a spreadsheet of what I have, including other accessories: Camera Stuff - Google Sheets

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QuoteOriginally posted by Lowell Goudge Quote
OK Tim, you show a lot of budget lenses, so what did they cost?

Is it really a lens kit on a budget?

The reason I ask is I have what i consider a budget kit of M42 lenses,

The whole collection is as follows

Zenitar 16/2.8 fisheye
Tamron adaptall 2. 24/2.5
Tamron adaptall 2. 28/2.5
Vivitar 28/2.5
SMC tak 35/2
Super tak 50/1.4 (8 element)
SMC macro tak 50/4
Super tak 55/1.8
SMC tak 55/2
Helios 58/2
Super tak 85/1.9
Tamron adaptall 2 90/2.5 macro
Vernon edonar 105/2.8 preset
Super tak 135/3.5
SMC tak 135/3.5
tele lentar 135/2.8 preset
Sigma 135/2.8
Tokina 180/3.5 preset
Takumar 200/3.5 preset
SMC tak 200/4
Sigma 200/4 preset
Nikkor H 300/4.3 (converted to M42)

All in I think I am at $1290 cdn

Considering lenses like the 85/1.9 and the zenitar were about 200 each it is a very inexpensive collection
So far the most expensive lens was $160, so my collection's pretty low cost.

A fisheye, though... tempting
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Here's a spreadsheet of what I have, including other accessories: Camera Stuff - Google Sheets

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So far the most expensive lens was $160, so my collection's pretty low cost.

A fisheye, though... tempting
If I add up your lenses yes you are at about $900 including the necessary Adaptors to mount the lenses, so not to my investment yet, but one question and one thing to highlight.

The highlight

Outside of some duplicate focal lengths, specifically the collection of 135's I have systematically tried to get a very fast single focal length lens at each focal length.

I have ventured into some slightly wider selection over time, including
-presets which have usually better bokeh when they have round apertures compar d to the faceted apertures of auto aperture lenses,
and also some curiosity lenses,
- like the sigma 135 which is an early fixed rear element design aimed at macro focusing, (two focusing rings, one to move the group for normal focusing, the other for moving the front element only to change the focal length and offer close focus for macro)

I have stayed away from early zooms because image quality and speed were not there compared to primes

Now the question,

Does your price include shipping, mine doesn't because I live in a place where you can still find stuff in local brick and mortar stores, pawn shops, thrift stores, and yes, camera stores.
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If I add up your lenses yes you are at about $900 including the necessary Adaptors to mount the lenses, so not to my investment yet, but one question and one thing to highlight.

The highlight

Outside of some duplicate focal lengths, specifically the collection of 135's I have systematically tried to get a very fast single focal length lens at each focal length.

I have ventured into some slightly wider selection over time, including
-presets which have usually better bokeh when they have round apertures compar d to the faceted apertures of auto aperture lenses,
and also some curiosity lenses,
- like the sigma 135 which is an early fixed rear element design aimed at macro focusing, (two focusing rings, one to move the group for normal focusing, the other for moving the front element only to change the focal length and offer close focus for macro)

I have stayed away from early zooms because image quality and speed were not there compared to primes

Now the question,

Does your price include shipping, mine doesn't because I live in a place where you can still find stuff in local brick and mortar stores, pawn shops, thrift stores, and yes, camera stores.
Yes, prices include shipping. I haven't perused the old lenses at my local camera shop enough.

Most of the old zooms I got as a group. My favorite by far (of the zooms) is the 60-300mm Macro/Zoom Tamron, because it is so versatile.

I'm thinking about geting a Fisheye lens and a Tair-11...and possibly an old Minolta Rokkor via an adapter
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Off the top of my head, here's some really good lenses you can get for under $100 used: DA-L 55-300, M 50 1.7, K 55 1.8, DA 35 2.4, DA 50 1.8, M 28 3.5
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Off the top of my head, here's some really good lenses you can get for under $100 used: DA-L 55-300, M 50 1.7, K 55 1.8, DA 35 2.4, DA 50 1.8, M 28 3.5
I have most of those sizes covered

I don't really have any notable AF glass exactly because it's $100+ used for a lens.
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"Budget" is a such a relative term. I consider a budget lens to be one I can get for 15-25 dollars (US) including the shipping. I do actually have about four of the lenses on your list, Lowell, but they were more of what I call "save up for" or "Christmas (or birthday) present" lenses. $1290 is more like what I call replacement pickup truck or tractor money, and well beyond the photography budget. Ha, ha, ha (note that I am laughing at myself, not others' good fortune)! More than once have I followed that Zenitar, or something quite similar, on ebay, only to have it zoom well beyond my bid range in the last seconds of an auction...alas and alack. I'm gonna have to save up for that one.


QuoteOriginally posted by Lowell Goudge Quote
OK Tim, you show a lot of budget lenses, so what did they cost?

Is it really a lens kit on a budget?

The reason I ask is I have what i consider a budget kit of M42 lenses,

The whole collection is as follows

Zenitar 16/2.8 fisheye
Tamron adaptall 2. 24/2.5
Tamron adaptall 2. 28/2.5
Vivitar 28/2.5
SMC tak 35/2
Super tak 50/1.4 (8 element)
SMC macro tak 50/4
Super tak 55/1.8
SMC tak 55/2
Helios 58/2
Super tak 85/1.9
Tamron adaptall 2 90/2.5 macro
Vernon edonar 105/2.8 preset
Super tak 135/3.5
SMC tak 135/3.5
tele lentar 135/2.8 preset
Sigma 135/2.8
Tokina 180/3.5 preset
Takumar 200/3.5 preset
SMC tak 200/4
Sigma 200/4 preset
Nikkor H 300/4.3 (converted to M42)

All in I think I am at $1290 cdn

Considering lenses like the 85/1.9 and the zenitar were about 200 each it is a very inexpensive collection
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QuoteOriginally posted by goatsNdonkey Quote
"Budget" is a such a relative term. I consider a budget lens to be one I can get for 15-25 dollars (US) including the shipping. I do actually have about four of the lenses on your list, Lowell, but they were more of what I call "save up for" or "Christmas (or birthday) present" lenses. $1290 is more like what I call replacement pickup truck or tractor money, and well beyond the photography budget. Ha, ha, ha (note that I am laughing at myself, not others' good fortune)! More than once have I followed that Zenitar, or something quite similar, on ebay, only to have it zoom well beyond my bid range in the last seconds of an auction...alas and alack. I'm gonna have to save up for that one.
Put budget into perspective. My signs 10-20 Tammy 28-75 and sigma 70-200/2.8 cost more than double that , and try out a similar kit in Kmount from Samsung in MF. Or what about Pentax primes.

As for the zenitar. Get a brand new one from Kremlin optical. By the time you go on eBay and add shipping you pay more than retail.
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