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05-13-2017, 06:41 AM   #16
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QuoteOriginally posted by pres589 Quote
I don't remember seeing soft/distorted corners in FF shots from the 40XS.
Nor do I, but before we open up that discussion further, I'll point out that there are other threads qhich have examined the 40mm and other lenses on FF

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simple photography talking, the xs is a bad lens since it can have no hood. The 40 ltd is a very good lens.
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Just two more notes. First, there were already a couple threads about DA 40mm ltd vs 40mm XS. You can search for them, maybe some have sample photos.

Also, there is this thread dedicated to the 40mm XS. Pretty much all of the photos are on crop cameras, but they show how good the lens can be:
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I have the HD DA 40 Limited find it to be an outstanding piece of kit - that said I wouldn't have purchased it had I already owned the DA 40 XS. No real optical benefit. Perhaps you should consider putting your cash toward a HD DA 35 f/2.8 Macro or the earlier SMC version?

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I have the 40 HD limited and it is an excellent lens optically. The metal construction is nice too. When I was looking for a 40mm, I considered the xs. I decided to get the 40 limited due to the very small hood, which keeps the lens very compact. I got a good deal on the HD which also helped. I think the 40 limited, on the used market, is one of the best bargains out there. Just make sure it comes with the original hood as they are kinda pricy if you have to replace it.
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Get the 43. I sold my 40ltd to robgski as soon as I decided I liked the 43 better. If you don't like it better, sell it. If you do, sell the xs
Yes go for a 43mm f1.9 I sold my 40mm for it, and I don't regret.
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A 27 to 49mm step up ring fixes a number of issues with the 40XS. I would consider that strongly if I had some lens money to spend.
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QuoteOriginally posted by pres589 Quote
I don't remember seeing soft/distorted corners in FF shots from the 40XS.
I checked it in the K-1 Lab on the K-1 special site. Sadly the xs images are now gone (they had the same scene as the DA 40mm ltd samples). But this xs sample clearly shows soft corners:

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If you do manual focus fairly often, the DA 40mm obviously has better ergonomics and quick shift. Otherwise, the optical quality seems to be equal. Even though not having quick shift, the FA 43mm might be the way to go for you as another lens to add, since it handles even better for MF than the DA 40mm (I have both), and is a substantially faster lens. It is not much physically larger, except for its hood, which is designed for FF use. And that is another point- it will serve even better for FF than will the DA 40mm, since that is what it was designed to do, so if there might be a FF body or film shooting ahead, you will be ready.

But to actually enhance your FL range and at the same time with a faster lens, consider adding the awesome FA 77mm f/1.8 Limited!
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another vote for the 43mm, whatever you pay for it, it's worth every penny.
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When DXO tested the HD 40mm ltd I used their comparison tool to check the SMC 40mm and 40mm XS. On some bodies, the 40mm XS is rated as highest. On another body, the HD 40mm as highest. Basically, I think the sample variation between individual lenses is bigger than any differences in the actual lens optics. Anyone can get a good copy of one lens or a bad copy of another.

One thing you might want is to go to a store and hold the Limited in hands. That can make your decision easier. If you really love the feel of the Ltd (barrel, focus ring, QS, lens hood), then you might want to sell the XS.
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QuoteOriginally posted by climit Quote
simple photography talking, the xs is a bad lens since it can have no hood.
Whilst I take your point, I respectfully disagree

I shoot a lot of different vintage lenses - mostly Soviet, but others too - that suffer ghosting and veiling flare when used without a hood around strong light sources. In the vast majority of cases, the flare can be avoided with a well-placed hand, so it just becomes a matter of technique and skill.

In any case, for the DA40XS I'm guessing it would be simple enough to fit a 27mm-to-49mm step up ring and an inexpensive generic hood?

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For what its worth, the DA 40 limited needs to be stopped down to have decent corners on full frame. I find that before f5.6 there is significant vignetting and softness in the corners. The XS version is probably not much different.
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If you already have the 40XS and have been happy with the images you get from it, there is no need IMO to double up. Save the money for something else.

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