Jupiter-9 85mm

nixcamic · 08-14-2008, 09:33 PM

Originally posted by suro

I can post my little test - Jupiter 9 and Helios 40-2 on wide open (portrait)

It looks like black and white

I'm not understand - for what you need 85mm lens with good work only from f2.8-f3.5?

Find me somewhere where I can get the helios 40-2, and get it near the price i can get a jupiter-9 for

suro · 08-14-2008, 09:50 PM

Originally posted by nixcamic

Find me somewhere where I can get the helios 40-2, and get it near the price i can get a jupiter-9 for

Good lens cost good money

Jupiter 9 I can buy here for only 34 U$, but... for what?

Helios 40 about 125 U$ here, and it's really great lens for portraits!

nixcamic · 08-14-2008, 09:53 PM

Originally posted by suro

Good lens cost good money

Jupiter 9 I can buy here for only 34 U$, but... for what?

Helios 40 about 125 U$ here, and it's really great lens for portraits!

Don't suppose you would be willing to ship me one

Not that I have the cash now, but eventually, when the time comes

figmental1978 · 08-14-2008, 09:56 PM

Originally posted by nixcamic

Don't suppose you would be willing to ship me one

Not that I have the cash now, but eventually, when the time comes

Ha, Same here! If I could get a the Helios 40-2 for $125 USD, I'd get one now.

suro · 08-14-2008, 10:32 PM

Originally posted by nixcamic

Don't suppose you would be willing to ship me one

Not that I have the cash now, but eventually, when the time comes

No problem, but I'm not have free time for it

suro · 08-14-2008, 10:45 PM

Originally posted by figmental1978

Ha, Same here! If I could get a the Helios 40-2 for $125 USD, I'd get one now.

Search for selling shops

I know one shop like e-Buy, but there is Russan language.

125 U$ is minimal price for Helios 40 (I'm has sold one for 250 U$ recently)

Minimal price for Helios 40-2 is about 334 U$ in our selling shops, I has bought it for 250 U$ one year ago.

Helios 40-2 I'm compare with Pentax 85mm /1.4 by quality of picture. Price is different too, Pentax 85mm /1.4 cost about 1200-1600 U$ here. But, I want this lens anyway

suro · 08-14-2008, 10:56 PM

Here I found two Helios 40 (in English):

InJapan.ru ? M42+M39 ... HELIOS-40 85MM F:1.5 ?????????? ??????????? Zenit ? ???????? ????

InJapan.ru ? M42 ... HELIOS-40 85MM F:1.5 ?????????? ??????????? Zenit M39 ? ???????? ????

about 308 U$

Here one other (in Russian):

http://molotok.ru/search.php?string=%D0%93%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BE%D1%81+40

figmental1978 · 08-14-2008, 11:05 PM

I saw those lenses in Yahoo Japan Auctions but that's double than the Jupiter-9 and they don't look good cosmetically. Anyway, I'll keep my eye out for more in the future. Thanks for all your input Suro.

hinman · 08-14-2008, 11:29 PM

I bought mine used and it is a good old lens that I recommend. I find it a bit soft wide open, somewhat soft similar to FA 50 f/1.4 in f/1.4. But a lot has to go with my user errors at wide open aperture with narrow DOF. When I stop down to f/2.8, I find pictures sharpen up a bit and by f/4.0, it is very sharp. That is what I remember.

My impressions & test photos:

Jupiter 9 85mm f/2.0 Test Shots - Hin's Tech Corner

I like the lens for the color and smooth bokeh. It works well on flowers and portraits for me. But I use it less due to M42 mount, extra aperture rings, and stop down metering. If I use Av mode, I remember I need to dial in big number for underexposure for certain apertures.

suro · 08-14-2008, 11:29 PM

Originally posted by figmental1978

I saw those lenses in Yahoo Japan Auctions but that's double than the Jupiter-9 and they don't look good cosmetically. Anyway, I'll keep my eye out for more in the future. Thanks for all your input Suro.

You're welcome! Evening today - I'll post samples of photos f2.0 from Jupiter 9 and Helios 40-2

figmental1978 · 08-14-2008, 11:36 PM

Hinman, I read your blog and I remember this post, those flower photos are very nice.

Suro, looking forward to some test shots.

suro · 08-15-2008, 05:39 AM

Jupiter 9, 85mm, f2.0 (resize and crop 100%):

Helios 40-2, 85mm, f2.0 (resize and crop 100%):

P.S. Camera: Pentax K110D, all photos are in focus.

Zewrak · 08-15-2008, 06:51 AM

I dont think the Helios look any better then my 85/1.9... Or am I missing something?

suro · 08-15-2008, 07:07 AM

Originally posted by Zewrak

I dont think the Helios look any better then my 85/1.9... Or am I missing something?

I think you can't get photos with this bokeh:

Zewrak · 08-15-2008, 07:51 AM

Originally posted by suro

I think you can't get photos with this bokeh:

I certainly hope so

.

Here is a testshot I took of my daughter when I got the 85mm f/1.9. It's wide open.

08-14-2008, 11:29 PM	#24
hinman Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Fremont, CA Photos: Albums Posts: 3,473	I bought mine used and it is a good old lens that I recommend. I find it a bit soft wide open, somewhat soft similar to FA 50 f/1.4 in f/1.4. But a lot has to go with my user errors at wide open aperture with narrow DOF. When I stop down to f/2.8, I find pictures sharpen up a bit and by f/4.0, it is very sharp. That is what I remember. My impressions & test photos: Jupiter 9 85mm f/2.0 Test Shots - Hin's Tech Corner I like the lens for the color and smooth bokeh. It works well on flowers and portraits for me. But I use it less due to M42 mount, extra aperture rings, and stop down metering. If I use Av mode, I remember I need to dial in big number for underexposure for certain apertures. Last edited by hinman; 08-15-2008 at 05:48 AM.

08-15-2008, 07:51 AM	#30
Zewrak Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Nowhere, Sweden Photos: Gallery Posts: 654	Originally posted by suro I think you can't get photos with this bokeh: I certainly hope so . Here is a testshot I took of my daughter when I got the 85mm f/1.9. It's wide open. Attached Images

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08-14-2008, 09:33 PM	#16
nixcamic Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Guatemala Posts: 354	Originally posted by suro I can post my little test - Jupiter 9 and Helios 40-2 on wide open (portrait) It looks like black and white I'm not understand - for what you need 85mm lens with good work only from f2.8-f3.5? Find me somewhere where I can get the helios 40-2, and get it near the price i can get a jupiter-9 for

08-14-2008, 09:50 PM	#17
suro Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Ekaterinburg Posts: 344	Originally posted by nixcamic Find me somewhere where I can get the helios 40-2, and get it near the price i can get a jupiter-9 for Good lens cost good money Jupiter 9 I can buy here for only 34 U$, but... for what? Helios 40 about 125 U$ here, and it's really great lens for portraits!

08-14-2008, 09:53 PM	#18
nixcamic Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Guatemala Posts: 354	Originally posted by suro Good lens cost good money Jupiter 9 I can buy here for only 34 U$, but... for what? Helios 40 about 125 U$ here, and it's really great lens for portraits! Don't suppose you would be willing to ship me one Not that I have the cash now, but eventually, when the time comes

08-14-2008, 09:56 PM	#19
figmental1978 Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Melbourne Posts: 789 Original Poster	Originally posted by nixcamic Don't suppose you would be willing to ship me one Not that I have the cash now, but eventually, when the time comes Ha, Same here! If I could get a the Helios 40-2 for $125 USD, I'd get one now.

08-14-2008, 10:32 PM	#20
suro Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Ekaterinburg Posts: 344	Originally posted by nixcamic Don't suppose you would be willing to ship me one Not that I have the cash now, but eventually, when the time comes No problem, but I'm not have free time for it

08-14-2008, 10:45 PM	#21
suro Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Ekaterinburg Posts: 344	Originally posted by figmental1978 Ha, Same here! If I could get a the Helios 40-2 for $125 USD, I'd get one now. Search for selling shops I know one shop like e-Buy, but there is Russan language. 125 U$ is minimal price for Helios 40 (I'm has sold one for 250 U$ recently) Minimal price for Helios 40-2 is about 334 U$ in our selling shops, I has bought it for 250 U$ one year ago. Helios 40-2 I'm compare with Pentax 85mm /1.4 by quality of picture. Price is different too, Pentax 85mm /1.4 cost about 1200-1600 U$ here. But, I want this lens anyway

08-14-2008, 10:56 PM	#22
suro Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Ekaterinburg Posts: 344	Here I found two Helios 40 (in English): InJapan.ru ? M42+M39 ... HELIOS-40 85MM F:1.5 ?????????? ??????????? Zenit ? ???????? ???? InJapan.ru ? M42 ... HELIOS-40 85MM F:1.5 ?????????? ??????????? Zenit M39 ? ???????? ???? about 308 U$ Here one other (in Russian): http://molotok.ru/search.php?string=%D0%93%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BE%D1%81+40

08-14-2008, 11:05 PM	#23
figmental1978 Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Melbourne Posts: 789 Original Poster	I saw those lenses in Yahoo Japan Auctions but that's double than the Jupiter-9 and they don't look good cosmetically. Anyway, I'll keep my eye out for more in the future. Thanks for all your input Suro.

08-14-2008, 11:29 PM	#25
suro Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Ekaterinburg Posts: 344	Originally posted by figmental1978 I saw those lenses in Yahoo Japan Auctions but that's double than the Jupiter-9 and they don't look good cosmetically. Anyway, I'll keep my eye out for more in the future. Thanks for all your input Suro. You're welcome! Evening today - I'll post samples of photos f2.0 from Jupiter 9 and Helios 40-2

08-14-2008, 11:36 PM	#26
figmental1978 Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Melbourne Posts: 789 Original Poster	Hinman, I read your blog and I remember this post, those flower photos are very nice. Suro, looking forward to some test shots.

08-15-2008, 05:39 AM	#27
suro Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Ekaterinburg Posts: 344	Jupiter 9, 85mm, f2.0 (resize and crop 100%): Helios 40-2, 85mm, f2.0 (resize and crop 100%): P.S. Camera: Pentax K110D, all photos are in focus.

08-15-2008, 06:51 AM	#28
Zewrak Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Nowhere, Sweden Photos: Gallery Posts: 654	I dont think the Helios look any better then my 85/1.9... Or am I missing something?

08-15-2008, 07:07 AM	#29
suro Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Ekaterinburg Posts: 344	Originally posted by Zewrak I dont think the Helios look any better then my 85/1.9... Or am I missing something? I think you can't get photos with this bokeh: