Originally posted by wanderer2 Fenwoodian, how would you compare the Zeiss Milvus and Classic lenses you mentioned above to the Pentax three amigos? The use would be for large landscape prints with cropping. I realize the Pentax lenses have the advantage, if it's considered that, of being automatic but that's not essential. Thanks.
I rarely crop my images. I don't shoot wide landscapes where everything is in focus. My photography is subject focused and strictly shot at wide apertures. So, the below comments are from my perspective and biased towards my shooting style.
I have owned at least two copies of each of the three amigos. Obviously, I liked their auto-focus and their light weight. I shot the 3 amigos on my K3, K3ii, and K1 cameras.
I would never say anything bad about the FA31 and FA77. I really liked the rendering of the FA31 and FA77. I was not all that impressed with the FA43 - thinking it was nice but not exceptional like the other two lenses. Between the FA31 and the FA77, my favorite was the FA77.
I have sold all of the 3 amigos that I had so at this time it would not be possible to do direct tests between the 3 amigos and my Zeiss Milvus and Classic lenses. But, I can certainly give you my opinion about what the differences are.
Overall, I guess that I prefer the Zeiss lenses to the 3 amigos because I prefer the "Zeiss Look" to the "3 Amigos Look". Neither is better, it's a matter of personal taste. But for what I like to shoot, I find the rendering/signature/colors/depth/contrast of the Zeiss lenses to be a bit more pleasing.
Like with Pentax lenses, not all Zeiss lenses are created equal and some are much better than others. Most lens reviewers would agree with that statement.
The FA77 Limited is up against one of the best Zeiss lenses there is, the Zeiss Milvus 85mm f/1.4. The 85 Milvus is the single best lens I have ever shot (the exceptional Zeiss 135/2 APO is a close second)! The Milvus 85 is much sharper than the FA77, and it's bokeh is exceptional (even Zeiss themselves call it "The King of Bokeh"). I believe most photographers who have shot both lenses would agree that the Zeiss 85 Milvus is clearly a few steps above the FA77 in just about every lens characteristic.
The FA31 Limited I would rate as being overall a fairly close competitor to the Zeiss Classic 35/2, 28/2 and 35/1.4 lenses that I own. However, the brand new Zeiss Milvus 35mm f/1.4 lens is soon to be released. It's an all new optical design over the Zeiss Classic 35/1.4 lens that I own. Both Lloyd Chambers and Thom Hogan have reviewed this new Zeiss lens and call it: much better than the older Classic version, a World-Class lens, and the best 35mm lens they have ever tested! So, based on the glowing reviews from Lloyd and Thom I have no doubt that the new Zeiss Milvus 35/1.4 is a much better lens than the FA31.
Please note that I have never used the new Zeiss 35/1.4 lens, and it will not be available at B&H until August.