7 years of ageing for a new * lens

zapp · 07-31-2017, 10:47 AM

2017 - well, nothing real yet
2016
2015 - D-FA* 2.8/70-200 mm
2014
2013
2012
2011
2010
2009
2008 - DA* 1.4/55 mm, 4/60-250, 2.8/200, 4/300
2007 - DA* 2.816-50, 2.8/50-135

2007/08 were great in terms of *. 2015 is a lone star, 2017 should start something, but actually I see no series here

While waiting you come up with funny ideas.
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Dartmoor Dave · 07-31-2017, 10:56 AM - **13 Likes**

You think that's bad? They haven't made a new Takumar since 1977. Can't believe I'm stuck shooting with such ancient stuff. . .

**Kerrowdown** · 07-31-2017, 11:22 AM

Originally posted by Dartmoor Dave

I'm stuck shooting with such ancient stuff. . .

Aye and my "Ladies" aren't young girlies either anymore.

**twilhelm** · 07-31-2017, 11:22 AM

Originally posted by Dartmoor Dave

You think that's bad? They haven't made a new Takumar since 1977. Can't believe I'm stuck shooting with such ancient stuff. . .

That's what I've been saying! They have totally disregarded us.

**jatrax** · 07-31-2017, 11:23 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by Dartmoor Dave

You think that's bad? They haven't made a new Takumar since 1977. Can't believe I'm stuck shooting with such ancient stuff. . .

Post of the day. Thread can be closed now.

steve_k · 07-31-2017, 11:29 AM - **1 Like**

Re-engineering the old lenses to correct all of the auto-focus (SDM) issues would be a good starting point. Would love to buy a 60-250 that I could rely on not to fail as soon as the warranty runs out.

**jatrax** · 07-31-2017, 12:01 PM

FA*600 f/4 1991 - 2004
FA* 400 f/5.6 1997 - 2004
FA* 300 f/4.5 1991 - 2004
FA* 300 f/2.8 1994 - 2004
FA* 200 f/2.8 1993 - 2004
FA*24 f/2 1991 - 2004

Length of production 7 to 13 years. I do not think star lens get turned very often. That said, the line is due for a refresh which should happen in the next 3 to 5 years.

**c.a.m** · 07-31-2017, 12:38 PM

I wish they'd refresh my Auto-Takumar.

**jatrax** · 07-31-2017, 01:17 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by c.a.m

I wish they'd refresh my Auto-Takumar.

New coatings and rounded blades? But they would probably take away the aperture ring and then where would we be?

timw4mail · 07-31-2017, 01:31 PM

Originally posted by c.a.m

I wish they'd refresh my Auto-Takumar.

Originally posted by jatrax

New coatings and rounded blades? But they would probably take away the aperture ring and then where would we be?

I don't see that happening.

Besides, it's not like they can bring back thorium glass for the 50/1.4...

**jatrax** · 07-31-2017, 01:46 PM

Originally posted by timw4mail

I don't see that happening. Besides, it's not like they can bring back thorium glass for the 50/1.4...

Well they used rounded blades when they updated the DA Limiteds, kinda messed up the starburst on the 15mm. Coatings should not be an issue. But you have a good point on the thorium glass. I expect they would have trouble getting that past current regulations.

**Kerrowdown** · 07-31-2017, 02:03 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by c.a.m

I wish they'd refresh my Auto-Takumar.

I wish they'd refresh me...

tim60 · 07-31-2017, 02:16 PM

Originally posted by Dartmoor Dave

You think that's bad? They haven't made a new Takumar since 1977. Can't believe I'm stuck shooting with such ancient stuff. . .

I like to tell my friends I shoot with the antiques. Many appreciate that there is something special about them. They are nearly all I have.

**c.a.m** · 07-31-2017, 02:56 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by tim60

I like to tell my friends I shoot with the antiques. Many appreciate that there is something special about them.

Exactly!

Actually, I'm rather fond of my nearly-60 year old Auto-Tak. That's the point - it's a fine piece of glass, even though it's relatively ancient.

As for the other Taks, @Dartmoor Dave gets my vote for the fantastic images he makes with those 'terrible' lenses (and that out-dated, less-than-24 MP, old CCD sensor).

- Craig

Dartmoor Dave · 07-31-2017, 03:02 PM - **3 Likes**

Well, we seem to have a consensus here: Ricoh's main focus should be new Takumars moving forwards. And an M42 mount full frame DSLR, obviously!

07-31-2017, 10:47 AM	#1
zapp Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,385	*7 years of ageing for a new lens** 2017 - well, nothing real yet 2016 2015 - D-FA* 2.8/70-200 mm 2014 2013 2012 2011 2010 2009 2008 - DA* 1.4/55 mm, 4/60-250, 2.8/200, 4/300 2007 - DA* 2.816-50, 2.8/50-135 2007/08 were great in terms of *. 2015 is a lone star, 2017 should start something, but actually I see no series here While waiting you come up with funny ideas. Send comments...

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07-31-2017, 10:56 AM - 13 Likes	#2
Dartmoor Dave Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Dartmoor, UK Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,882	You think that's bad? They haven't made a new Takumar since 1977. Can't believe I'm stuck shooting with such ancient stuff. . .

07-31-2017, 11:22 AM	#3
Kerrowdown PEG Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Highlands of Scotland... "Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand" - William Blake Photos: Gallery Posts: 57,819	Originally posted by Dartmoor Dave I'm stuck shooting with such ancient stuff. . . Aye and my "Ladies" aren't young girlies either anymore.

07-31-2017, 11:22 AM	#4
twilhelm Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Florida Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,369	Originally posted by Dartmoor Dave You think that's bad? They haven't made a new Takumar since 1977. Can't believe I'm stuck shooting with such ancient stuff. . . That's what I've been saying! They have totally disregarded us.

07-31-2017, 11:23 AM - 2 Likes	#5
jatrax Site Supporter Join Date: May 2010 Location: Washington Cascades Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,991	Originally posted by Dartmoor Dave You think that's bad? They haven't made a new Takumar since 1977. Can't believe I'm stuck shooting with such ancient stuff. . . Post of the day. Thread can be closed now.

07-31-2017, 11:29 AM - 1 Like	#6
steve_k Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Shelton, CT Photos: Albums Posts: 708	Re-engineering the old lenses to correct all of the auto-focus (SDM) issues would be a good starting point. Would love to buy a 60-250 that I could rely on not to fail as soon as the warranty runs out.

07-31-2017, 12:01 PM	#7
jatrax Site Supporter Join Date: May 2010 Location: Washington Cascades Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,991	FA600 f/4 1991 - 2004 FA 400 f/5.6 1997 - 2004 FA* 300 f/4.5 1991 - 2004 FA* 300 f/2.8 1994 - 2004 FA* 200 f/2.8 1993 - 2004 FA*24 f/2 1991 - 2004 Length of production 7 to 13 years. I do not think star lens get turned very often. That said, the line is due for a refresh which should happen in the next 3 to 5 years.

07-31-2017, 12:38 PM	#8
c.a.m Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Ottawa, Canada Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,189	I wish they'd refresh my Auto-Takumar.

07-31-2017, 01:17 PM - 1 Like	#9
jatrax Site Supporter Join Date: May 2010 Location: Washington Cascades Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,991	Originally posted by c.a.m I wish they'd refresh my Auto-Takumar. New coatings and rounded blades? But they would probably take away the aperture ring and then where would we be?

07-31-2017, 01:31 PM	#10
timw4mail Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Driving a Mirage Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,670	Originally posted by c.a.m I wish they'd refresh my Auto-Takumar. Originally posted by jatrax New coatings and rounded blades? But they would probably take away the aperture ring and then where would we be? I don't see that happening. Besides, it's not like they can bring back thorium glass for the 50/1.4...

07-31-2017, 01:46 PM	#11
jatrax Site Supporter Join Date: May 2010 Location: Washington Cascades Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,991	Originally posted by timw4mail I don't see that happening. Besides, it's not like they can bring back thorium glass for the 50/1.4... Well they used rounded blades when they updated the DA Limiteds, kinda messed up the starburst on the 15mm. Coatings should not be an issue. But you have a good point on the thorium glass. I expect they would have trouble getting that past current regulations.

07-31-2017, 02:03 PM - 1 Like	#12
Kerrowdown PEG Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Highlands of Scotland... "Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand" - William Blake Photos: Gallery Posts: 57,819	Originally posted by c.a.m I wish they'd refresh my Auto-Takumar. I wish they'd refresh me...

07-31-2017, 02:16 PM	#13
tim60 Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2011 Photos: Albums Posts: 8,745	Originally posted by Dartmoor Dave You think that's bad? They haven't made a new Takumar since 1977. Can't believe I'm stuck shooting with such ancient stuff. . . I like to tell my friends I shoot with the antiques. Many appreciate that there is something special about them. They are nearly all I have.

07-31-2017, 02:56 PM - 1 Like	#14
c.a.m Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Ottawa, Canada Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,189	Originally posted by tim60 I like to tell my friends I shoot with the antiques. Many appreciate that there is something special about them. Exactly! Actually, I'm rather fond of my nearly-60 year old Auto-Tak. That's the point - it's a fine piece of glass, even though it's relatively ancient. As for the other Taks, @Dartmoor Dave gets my vote for the fantastic images he makes with those 'terrible' lenses (and that out-dated, less-than-24 MP, old CCD sensor). - Craig

07-31-2017, 03:02 PM - 3 Likes	#15
Dartmoor Dave Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Dartmoor, UK Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,882	Well, we seem to have a consensus here: Ricoh's main focus should be new Takumars moving forwards. And an M42 mount full frame DSLR, obviously!