Originally posted by Eigengrau Pentax won't be making any 40's in the near future
I'm not sure what you mean by this? The DA40 is still very much in production.
Quote: Of course I have to admit that Marc's post was pretty persuasive - I wonder, which focal length most closely matches the magnification of the human eye on a cropped sensor - so you could open your other eye and see a similar view?
The thing is. it is *not* about magnification. At least, it shouldn't be. Consider, the same lens on a camera with a tiny viewfinder and one with a very large viewfinder will produce *exactly* the same image, but it will *look* much bigger when looking through the latter viewfinder. The lens that happens to produce "normal" magnification is going to vary depending on the viewfinder, but that *should* have no relevance at all. Of course, it is tough not to be swayed by that to some extent - if things look too big or too small, it is gong to take a moment to adjust.
But really, what I am talking is not *magnification*, but *angle of view*. In other words, not how "big" objects look, but how much of a scene I can see at once. And I'm not the physical limits of human eyesight. Actually, we see *a lot* more than a 40mm lens can take in. More than the 18-55 can take in at 18, in fact. If you have the 18-55, set it all the way to 18 and look through the viewfinder. Unless you have serious problems with your peripheral vision, you can certainly see more of the scene in front of you with your unaided eyes than you can looking through the viewfinder.
But at some level, while we can *see* more of the scene than an 18mm lens can show, we normally cannot "focus" on all of it. There is a sort of *conceptual* angle of view through which we tend to view the world, and I'm sure it is very subjective - depending both on the person as well as the situation.
As a typical example, though, if I stand on my back porch and look at a tree on the other side of yard, I can see that entire tree and probably about 80% of my entire yard, including the bushes surrounding the tree, the hammock a few meters to my right, a smaller tree a few meters off to my left, some of the sky above the tree as well as to either side, good chunk of ground between me and the tree, etc.
And yet conceptually, I am really only *looking at* the tree - and probably just a portion of it at that (either the trunk at eye level or the canopy, but at this distance, not both at once). Similarly, I am only truly *aware* of a limited amount of its surroundings - just the foliage to either side of it and a small patch of the ground in front, perhaps.
My guess is that on APS-C, I can physically *see* close to the same angle of view as a 15mm lens. But no way do I really focus on nearly that much. Somewhere around the equivalent of 40mm is the amount of a scene I normally "focus" on at a time. Could be a bit wider if I am deliberately trying to take in a whole room, could be a bit narrower if I am trying to focus on a single person in that room, could be *lot* narrow if i am trying to focus on something in the distance. But it seems on average, I spend much of my life looking at things as if I were looking at the angle of view provided by a 40mm lens, as evidnece by the fact that I use focal lengths around there a *lot* with my 18-55, and the fact that, as I said, I am so seldom surprised by what I see when I put the camera to my eye with that lens mounted, whereas my 28 often seems wider than I expect and my 50 often seems narrower. The 28 fits my expectations more often in wide open landscapes - maybe a bit wider (24 or so). The 50 often fits better when looking at a single person. But the 40 fits my expectations the most often.
Quote: Anyways I see that purchase as one that would be really hard to regret.
The DA40? I'm not going to argue with that. Easily my favorite lens.