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ogl · 08-22-2008, 10:05 PM

Pentax SMC DA 35mm f/2.8 Limited macro - Review / Test Report

I'm with Klaus's opinion.

Aegon · 08-22-2008, 10:41 PM

It seems like this lens outperforms the K10D. I'd like one, but that means I'd need a K20D to use it properly.

Blue · 08-22-2008, 11:06 PM

This like the 4th thread on this review.

jsherman999 · 08-22-2008, 11:42 PM

Ogl, actually, I think Klaus likes it more than you, based on his review.

Anyway, could you take a few minutes and have a look at the images in this thread, and tell me what specifically you don't like about them?

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deejjjaaaa · 08-23-2008, 11:10 AM

Originally posted by jsherman999

could you take a few minutes and have a look at the images in this thread, and tell me what specifically you don't like about them?

dull (c) ogl

Blue · 08-23-2008, 11:24 AM

The linked thread above had critics complaining about it being tested on the K20D and here it is on the k10D. Perhaps it should be reviewed by them on K20D, k10d, and k200d.

**GaryM** · 08-23-2008, 12:55 PM

DA35 Macro: the most controversial Pentax lens ever!

Blue · 08-23-2008, 01:03 PM

Originally posted by GaryM

DA35 Macro: the most controversial Pentax lens ever!

I guess I better keep it separated from my other lenses to keep down trouble.

nulla · 08-23-2008, 02:39 PM

All the way with LBA

gnaztee · 08-23-2008, 06:06 PM

Regarding the DA 35, I have it, I love it, I think there IS something special about the way it renders. I love that I can use it for street photography and go right into an extreme closeup. I've even defended it recently in this forum. All that being said, I think it's a bit silly for us (yes, I include me) to be arguing about it.

First of all, everyone has different ideas of what they want their own photos to look like. If this wasn't true, there'd be no need for lightroom or photoshop, there would just be one program that had a "Make My Picture Perfect" option. For instance, I like what I've seen of the FA 31 and FA 43, but not as much as the DA ltds. I don't find that mystery quality others find in those photos. Check that, I SEE what they're talking about, but I don't particularly like it. No biggie, to each his or her own. I definitely like the DA 35 more than the FA 31, but I got no problem with others being opposite that.

Secondly, regarding the two reviews, one is clearly subjective and one is technical. As many others have stated, neither one should be taken as the final word on whether or the lens is great. I'm glad the first two guys liked it, but I liked it before their article. And I trust Klaus' technical review, and find it interesting, but couldn't care less if he recommends it or not, I like it.

Finally, Ogl, and I don't say this with any malice at all, but it seems a bit strange for you to cite the photozone review to back up your campaign against this lens, when your biggest complaints about the lens are that it's "dull" and has "no mystic," two categories that I couldn't find in Klaus' test.

Oh, one more thing in regards to my post title: check out the differing opinions on the DA 40 when it came out (a lens that has been cited as better than the DA 35 in this current round of lens disputes). Some of the arguments sound strangely similar:

Why so little lust for the DA 40mm ? [Page 1]: Pentax SLR Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review

Many lenses, many users, many needs, everyone can be happy with what they have!

Todd

chrisman · 08-23-2008, 07:55 PM

I own a DA35 2.8 and a K10D. I think it is an excellent lens - sharp, good colour rendition, more than acceptable bokeh, excellent build quality and handling.

Whether it is the best lens in the universe I do not know, or care, but it is another very fine lens from Pentax and should be recognised as such.

You can photograph test charts and pixel-peep as much as you like but they will just stop you enjoying photography!

ogl · 08-23-2008, 08:25 PM

It's good...You can love this lens...
But, if we start to compare - DA35 is only good MACRO lens, but the weakest LIMITED.
Even FA35 is better in resolution and faster.

Blue · 08-23-2008, 09:48 PM

Originally posted by ogl

It's good...You can love this lens...
But, if we start to compare - DA35 is only good MACRO lens, but the weakest LIMITED.
Even FA35 is better in resolution and faster.

I find this funny as hell coming from someone that don't apparently own a DA 35mm Limited macro lens.

gnaztee · 08-23-2008, 10:55 PM

Originally posted by ogl

It's good...You can love this lens...
But, if we start to compare - DA35 is only good MACRO lens, but the weakest LIMITED.
Even FA35 is better in resolution and faster.

If we start to compare:

My experience has led me to believe that the DA 35 is not only a good macro lens, it performs very well in street photography and for landscapes. YOU think it's only a good macro lens. I owned the DA 70 and sold it because I didn't think it was as good or as versatile as the DA 35, for me. YOU think it's the weakest limited, many others don't. In terms of resolution, it's not the only aspect of rendering (although my copy of the DA 35 is tack sharp), nor the reason you've given before for not liking this lens. As far as speed, who cares? I don't take photos in closets, so I don't need f/2. As far as macro, I don't do bugs very often, so I don't need 100mm. Again, different people, different needs, and different SUBJECTIVE viewpoints on which LTDs. are the best. And I'm totally cool with you not liking it, but your argument against the lens is based largely on your opinion, and on one resolution test, so it's no more valid than anyone else's opinion (mine included) of this lens. Good Day, Sir

Todd

deejjjaaaa · 08-24-2008, 08:47 AM

Originally posted by Blue

I find this funny as hell coming from someone that don't apparently own a DA 35mm Limited macro lens.

ogl sold his DA35 some time ago... probably before you joined this forum.

08-22-2008, 10:05 PM	#1
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	DA35/2.8 at photozone.de Pentax SMC DA 35mm f/2.8 Limited macro - Review / Test Report I'm with Klaus's opinion.

08-23-2008, 06:06 PM	#10
gnaztee Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: West Palm Beach, FL Posts: 772	Natural Cycle Regarding the DA 35, I have it, I love it, I think there IS something special about the way it renders. I love that I can use it for street photography and go right into an extreme closeup. I've even defended it recently in this forum. All that being said, I think it's a bit silly for us (yes, I include me) to be arguing about it. First of all, everyone has different ideas of what they want their own photos to look like. If this wasn't true, there'd be no need for lightroom or photoshop, there would just be one program that had a "Make My Picture Perfect" option. For instance, I like what I've seen of the FA 31 and FA 43, but not as much as the DA ltds. I don't find that mystery quality others find in those photos. Check that, I SEE what they're talking about, but I don't particularly like it. No biggie, to each his or her own. I definitely like the DA 35 more than the FA 31, but I got no problem with others being opposite that. Secondly, regarding the two reviews, one is clearly subjective and one is technical. As many others have stated, neither one should be taken as the final word on whether or the lens is great. I'm glad the first two guys liked it, but I liked it before their article. And I trust Klaus' technical review, and find it interesting, but couldn't care less if he recommends it or not, I like it. Finally, Ogl, and I don't say this with any malice at all, but it seems a bit strange for you to cite the photozone review to back up your campaign against this lens, when your biggest complaints about the lens are that it's "dull" and has "no mystic," two categories that I couldn't find in Klaus' test. Oh, one more thing in regards to my post title: check out the differing opinions on the DA 40 when it came out (a lens that has been cited as better than the DA 35 in this current round of lens disputes). Some of the arguments sound strangely similar: Why so little lust for the DA 40mm ? [Page 1]: Pentax SLR Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review Many lenses, many users, many needs, everyone can be happy with what they have! Todd

08-23-2008, 10:55 PM	#14
gnaztee Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: West Palm Beach, FL Posts: 772	Exactly my point Originally posted by ogl It's good...You can love this lens... But, if we start to compare - DA35 is only good MACRO lens, but the weakest LIMITED. Even FA35 is better in resolution and faster. If we start to compare: My experience has led me to believe that the DA 35 is not only a good macro lens, it performs very well in street photography and for landscapes. YOU think it's only a good macro lens. I owned the DA 70 and sold it because I didn't think it was as good or as versatile as the DA 35, for me. YOU think it's the weakest limited, many others don't. In terms of resolution, it's not the only aspect of rendering (although my copy of the DA 35 is tack sharp), nor the reason you've given before for not liking this lens. As far as speed, who cares? I don't take photos in closets, so I don't need f/2. As far as macro, I don't do bugs very often, so I don't need 100mm. Again, different people, different needs, and different SUBJECTIVE viewpoints on which LTDs. are the best. And I'm totally cool with you not liking it, but your argument against the lens is based largely on your opinion, and on one resolution test, so it's no more valid than anyone else's opinion (mine included) of this lens. Good Day, Sir Todd

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08-22-2008, 10:41 PM	#2
Aegon Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 1,416	It seems like this lens outperforms the K10D. I'd like one, but that means I'd need a K20D to use it properly.

08-22-2008, 11:06 PM	#3
Blue Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida Hill Country Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,377	This like the 4th thread on this review.

08-22-2008, 11:42 PM	#4
jsherman999 Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,237	Ogl, actually, I think Klaus likes it more than you, based on his review. Anyway, could you take a few minutes and have a look at the images in this thread, and tell me what specifically you don't like about them? .

08-23-2008, 11:10 AM	#5
deejjjaaaa Veteran Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: steel city / rust belt Posts: 2,043	Originally posted by jsherman999 could you take a few minutes and have a look at the images in this thread, and tell me what specifically you don't like about them? dull (c) ogl

08-23-2008, 11:24 AM	#6
Blue Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida Hill Country Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,377	The linked thread above had critics complaining about it being tested on the K20D and here it is on the k10D. Perhaps it should be reviewed by them on K20D, k10d, and k200d.

08-23-2008, 12:55 PM	#7
GaryM Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Montclair, CA Photos: Gallery Posts: 426	DA35 Macro: the most controversial Pentax lens ever!

08-23-2008, 01:03 PM	#8
Blue Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida Hill Country Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,377	Originally posted by GaryM DA35 Macro: the most controversial Pentax lens ever! I guess I better keep it separated from my other lenses to keep down trouble.

08-23-2008, 02:39 PM	#9
nulla Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Melbourne Australia Posts: 1,560	All the way with LBA

08-23-2008, 07:55 PM	#11
chrisman Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Sydney Photos: Gallery Posts: 237	I own a DA35 2.8 and a K10D. I think it is an excellent lens - sharp, good colour rendition, more than acceptable bokeh, excellent build quality and handling. Whether it is the best lens in the universe I do not know, or care, but it is another very fine lens from Pentax and should be recognised as such. You can photograph test charts and pixel-peep as much as you like but they will just stop you enjoying photography!

08-23-2008, 08:25 PM	#12
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382 Original Poster	It's good...You can love this lens... But, if we start to compare - DA35 is only good MACRO lens, but the weakest LIMITED. Even FA35 is better in resolution and faster.

08-23-2008, 09:48 PM	#13
Blue Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida Hill Country Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,377	Originally posted by ogl It's good...You can love this lens... But, if we start to compare - DA35 is only good MACRO lens, but the weakest LIMITED. Even FA35 is better in resolution and faster. I find this funny as hell coming from someone that don't apparently own a DA 35mm Limited macro lens.

08-24-2008, 08:47 AM	#15
deejjjaaaa Veteran Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: steel city / rust belt Posts: 2,043	Originally posted by Blue I find this funny as hell coming from someone that don't apparently own a DA 35mm Limited macro lens. ogl sold his DA35 some time ago... probably before you joined this forum.