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08-25-2008, 09:27 PM   #1
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K10 or new lenses?

I have a K100D with a 50 f/1.4; I like that setup, and I've heard that the glass matters more than the body; but I'm finding I'm not experienced enough at this point to capture the ideal image and am cropping most images 25-35% and I could use the extra real estate of the 10mp. Plus the dual control wheels and hyperprogram.

There are some good buys on nearly-new K10s around right now, so as a novice, buy a K10 or stick with the body I have but add a couple of really good primes, i.e., 31mm and 77mm ?

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I had the K100 with the DA 70, 40 and an FA J 18-35.

Bought a K10D for the hard button access to controls: Front e-dial, green button (useful for returning to auto ISO/zeroing out manual to correct exposure), AF point selection, metering mode, etc.

Also the pentaprism viewfinder is lovely, but it doesn't hold a candle to my MX.

10MP is good for cropping, but you'll find ISO 800-1600 not as clean as the K100D.

AF is faster as the lithium cell provides a constant output until empty.

I'd vouch for glass normally, but in this case the K10D is much more responsive and customizeable. The auto-bracket button is great if you like HDR stuff.
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I actually bought the K100D before I bought the K10D, but hated having to go through the menus for a lot of the settings. I returned it after a week and bought the K10D and never looked back...
BUT, if you only have one lens and are tight on cash, I would probably look into some other lenses first.. if you go with a longer lens, that might help you with your cropping issue..
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I started with the K100D, then upgraded to the K10D 5 months later.

I'm glad I did. The K100D is a very good camera, but the K10D is just so much better.

What other lenses do you have? Just the f1.4/50?

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Just the 50mm. Somebody off forum suggested if I keep the K100 just getting a good zoom (I'm more interested in the mid-tele than wide) like the Tamron 28-75 and wait to get the primes with an upgraded body. I am thinking, hard and fast, before my wife changes my mind,
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If you can I would get the K10, it will be a big step up, not better in every area, but overall a true step up. It will keep its resale value longer as well because its not an outdated camera and still competes with the best out thier for under $1000. I would also get the kit lens, a great lens for the price. So if you can get both in a deal, IMO I would.
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Ditto on the K10 & 18-55. Just make sure you get version II of the 18-55. I would also suggest that you pick up a telezoom--for less than $200, you can pick up the Tamron 70-300 or the DA50-200 or if you can afford to spend more, then the DA55-300 is an excellent choice.

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i love it how someone with "its not the tool, but the tool maker" in his signature wants to get a new tool because he admits that he currently fudges up most of his shots and is required to crop them afterwards hence the justification for an upgrade....


if you only have the 1 lens, id go out and buy more, 1 tele and 1 wide angle.

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Thanks for saving me all that typing, Gooshin
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I will go with gooshin on this one... I have two K100Ds. And though I was thinking about K10D I have kept getting lenses. Do I regret it? no, no and .... no
K100D is very capable, in your place IŽd get more lenses and wait until K20D will go down in price...
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QuoteOriginally posted by Gooshin Quote
i love it how someone with "its not the tool, but the tool maker" in his signature wants to get a new tool because he admits that he currently fudges up most of his shots and is required to crop them afterwards hence the justification for an upgrade....


if you only have the 1 lens, id go out and buy more, 1 tele and 1 wide angle.
Ah, constructive input. Thank you so much,
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thought the other threads covered it so didn't reply
try out the tamron zoom (which offers quite a bit more on the teleend) and see which focal lengths you like better. shouldn't have as much trouble as working with primes. it's tough working with primes because have to be really careful about the composition.

i would hold off on the body. get comfortable with your glass first before you step up.
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