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12-06-2017, 06:57 PM   #1
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Thoughts on an ultra wide zoom.

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I have my sights set on an ultrawide zoom. No rush on this, I can wait and have an interest in the upcoming DA* 11-18. While looking at the current options, I noticed the lowest priced lens of those reviewed is the Sigma 10-20 f3.5 HSM which is down to $399. I am looking for feedback from anyone who has this lens and also those who have the Pentax 12-24 f4.0. My dilemma is the following:
1. Wait for and save up for the DA* 11-18 and get the best.
2. Grab the Sigma while it is selling for such a low price.
3. Go for the current Pentax 12-24 even though it is a lot more expensive at $699
4. Realize I already have a great WA in the DA 15 Limited and don't give in to LBA.
Thoughts on the matter appreciated!

12-06-2017, 07:12 PM   #2
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If you really need zoom, save the money for the best glass for the job, you DO have a great UWA in a 15mm, lower than that you start getting into fisheye territory.

To my mind you want a wide angle to take it all in, no need for a zoom. If you are on crop sensor the DA 10-17 mm is a great fisheye to UWA ar a lower price point. Otherwise stick with the 15mm prime.
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The Sigma 8-16 is great. Also have a lot of love for the 10-17 fisheye.

Another choice is to learn to stitch panoramas. Works well sometimes.
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QuoteOriginally posted by jddwoods Quote
Hello All

I have my sights set on an ultrawide zoom. No rush on this, I can wait and have an interest in the upcoming DA* 11-18. While looking at the current options, I noticed the lowest priced lens of those reviewed is the Sigma 10-20 f3.5 HSM which is down to $399. I am looking for feedback from anyone who has this lens and also those who have the Pentax 12-24 f4.0. My dilemma is the following:
1. Wait for and save up for the DA* 11-18 and get the best.
2. Grab the Sigma while it is selling for such a low price.
3. Go for the current Pentax 12-24 even though it is a lot more expensive at $699
4. Realize I already have a great WA in the DA 15 Limited and don't give in to LBA.
Thoughts on the matter appreciated!

I've been using the Sigma and am happy with the performance. If I need to rectify any objects I use DxO OP 11 with the ViewPoint addin.

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Nothing wrong with the Sigma older version 10-20 f4-5.6 if u want to fill some time in waiting for the Pentax Aw/Wr 11-18.Can be had for 150-200ish.
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The 10-20mm will always give you something the 15mm can't. 10-14mm. It can also use filters, which the 8-16 can't.
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I have the Pentax 12-24 and it's very good, JD. But that Sigma is very good too and look at its price!

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I am very happy with 12-24 (big lens for APSC but good quality). If you have DA 15, wait and choose between those after; maybe you don't need anymore
another UWA
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Similar situation with me.
I am waitting for the DA* 11-18. I will see what 11-18 can do and I might have to sale my 15, but keep 21. I am looking for wide WR lens.
I hope (a little) Pentax will have it for hand-on test in CP+ 2018 in Yokohama.
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QuoteOriginally posted by pakinjapan Quote
I am looking for wide WR lens..
The 11-18 will be great, save those pennies!
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That 10-20 or the cheaper f4-5.6 is often available used on the marketplace for even less. I think it would be useful to try a used one before committing to a high proceed DA* lens to be sure it is a focal range you like.

I can't link it now, but Pentax forums did an ultrawide shootout with several lenses including the Sigma 10-20 lenses.
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QuoteOriginally posted by jddwoods Quote
Hello All

I have my sights set on an ultrawide zoom. No rush on this, I can wait and have an interest in the upcoming DA* 11-18. While looking at the current options, I noticed the lowest priced lens of those reviewed is the Sigma 10-20 f3.5 HSM which is down to $399. I am looking for feedback from anyone who has this lens and also those who have the Pentax 12-24 f4.0. My dilemma is the following:
1. Wait for and save up for the DA* 11-18 and get the best.
2. Grab the Sigma while it is selling for such a low price.
3. Go for the current Pentax 12-24 even though it is a lot more expensive at $699
4. Realize I already have a great WA in the DA 15 Limited and don't give in to LBA.
Thoughts on the matter appreciated!
I have owned the Sigma 10-20mm f3.5 and have been happy with it for architecture and landscapes with my K-5 and K-5iis.
I would love a chance to try out the Sigma 12-24mm F4.5-5.6 EX DG if one can be found in the secondary market.

Have you seen the 5 way comparison of UWA lenses here on Pentaxforums?

Sigma 10-20mm F3.5 vs F4.0-5.6 Review - The Bottom Line | PentaxForums.com Reviews
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I love the Rokinon 8mm on my K-1. Sharp, good color and inexpensive.... Consider it....
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I use a Sigma 8-16, which I bought after considerable research.

Here's my most recent uncropped image taken at 14mm with a K-1.
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Think about the timing and the cost. The DA*11-18 is expected to be available in "summer 2018". The Tokina 11-18 on which it is based costs around $US400. I imagine that, on release, the Pentax version, with the DA* treatment, will cost considerably more than that, probably more than the current price of the DA 12-24, and more in line with the price of other DA* lenses. There will be a pretty hefty early-buyer premium. The sensible thing would be to wait until at least Black Friday 2018, or even into 2019.

Much as I like my DA 12-24, $US700 is a lot for an interim solution - and the secondhand value of that lens will fall considerably when the 11-18 comes out. If I were in your position I'd go with either the 10-17 Fisheye (which de-fishes pretty well, and offers something different) or one of the Sigma 10-20s (if they are much more affordable than the 12-24). The Sigmas were pretty competitive with the DA 12-24 in the PF comparison. As for option 4 (just sticking with the DA 15), there's a big difference between 10mm, or 12mm, and 15. And I find a wide-angle zoom handy because there are plenty of times I can't zoom with my feet: like standing on stones in a river, or in tight in a forest as here:

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