the limiteds do they live up to the reputation and why

**Alex645** · 11-11-2020, 11:43 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by clackers

It is absolutely glorious. the Limited has pixie dust and is small.

I appreciate when a post shows, not tells. Great lighting doesn't hurt either.

**Serkevan** · 11-12-2020, 02:18 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by Alex645

I appreciate when a post shows, not tells. Great lighting doesn't hurt either.

Ooops... my main "issue" with the 77 is that most of the photos I like from it are friends/family and I'm not posting those images on the internet

To compensate, here's the fluffball the day I got the lens. His face clearly says "what, another one? Fine, I'll pose"

.

**aslyfox** · 11-12-2020, 04:30 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by ivanvernon

I have a silver 77, and my wife calls it our magic lens. I never get to use it because she keeps it hidden away with her camera kit.

sounds like you need another

**ivanvernon** · 11-12-2020, 05:22 AM

Originally posted by aslyfox

sounds like you need another

Actually I have been thinking about that. Now that I have invested about enough to buy a new car (of smaller size and cheaper brand) in medium format cameras and lenses, perhaps I could move to replicating those lenses that seem to have been appropriated more or less permanently from my collection. Most of the lenses she returns promptly after using them, but she just turns a deaf ear to any of my inquiries regarding the 77.

**clackers** · 11-12-2020, 03:37 PM

Originally posted by Alex645

I appreciate when a post shows, not tells. Great lighting doesn't hurt either.

Yeah, it's honestly a vertical fluorescent tube on the bridge wall she's leaning against - you can actually see it in her eye.

Shooting in a city at nighttime can give opportunities to do studio-like shots.

**aslyfox** · 11-12-2020, 05:25 PM

honestly

I am concerned and confused over a zoom being a " limited " which, of course, were ( are ) all prime lenses otherwise

as far as WR

if it is bad enough to need it, I'm not out there taking photos

just quirky I guess

**clackers** · 11-12-2020, 05:43 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by aslyfox

honestly

I am concerned and confused over a zoom being a " limited " which, of course, were ( are ) all prime lenses otherwise

as far as WR

if it is bad enough to need it, I'm not out there taking photos

just quirky I guess

Sure. Having said, that, I've got a silver 20-40 and it's a great lens. If the weather's wet I tend to use it rather than the DA21.

**ivanvernon** · 11-12-2020, 05:44 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by aslyfox

honestly

I am concerned and confused over a zoom being a " limited " which, of course, were ( are ) all prime lenses otherwise

as far as WR

if it is bad enough to need it, I'm not out there taking photos

just quirky I guess

Some people like walking around in the rain and taking photos! It is fun.

**aslyfox** · 11-12-2020, 05:49 PM - **1 Like**

no problem you do what you want to in the rain

during the rain, I'm just

You Tube

dbs · 11-12-2020, 07:37 PM

So . if you have the 70 do you need the 77 aswell ?

Dave

**Alex645** · 11-12-2020, 08:32 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by clackers

Yeah, it's honestly a vertical fluorescent tube on the bridge wall she's leaning against - you can actually see it in her eye.

Shooting in a city at nighttime can give opportunities to do studio-like shots.

I think it takes as much skill to see available ambient light and to exploit it as it does to set up lighting in a studio. They are different skills but ultimately it takes a good eye to make either work well. Kudos!

**clackers** · 11-12-2020, 08:52 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by dbs

So . if you have the 70 do you need the 77 aswell ?

Dave

Dave, I have both. As you can see, on the K-1 the DA70 Ltd *can* do much of what the 77 does for the price. You'd need to shoot differently (eg at f1.8) to make a difference. I fill in here with the Pentax 540 flash in HSS.

dbs · 11-12-2020, 09:59 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by clackers

Dave, I have both. As you can see, on the K-1 the DA70 Ltd *can* do much of what the 77 does for the price. You'd need to shoot differently (eg at f1.8) to make a difference. I fill in here with the Pentax 540 flash in HSS.

Hi Clackers

Is she smiling because she knows you have the 77 as well ?

**UncleVanya** · 11-12-2020, 10:16 PM

Originally posted by dbs

So . if you have the 70 do you need the 77 as well ?

I too have both. They are both excellent in their own way. But I currently only shoot crop.

**clackers** · 11-12-2020, 10:35 PM

Originally posted by dbs

Hi Clackers

Is she smiling because she knows you have the 77 as well ?

Rapport was a challenge that evening, Dave, because we hadn't met before and she's Russian.

But it happened, you can see that in the pic. I find for me, the keepers occur in the final thirty minutes because model and photographer are now in tune. Avedon used to begin sessions shooting without film in his camera, unbeknownst to his subject, to get their fake expressions over and done with.

So, the interaction is *far* more important than the gear. 70 or 77? How would that matter here? The 70 has newer coatings which help a bit with the sun low and almost in the frame, but that's about it.

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11-11-2020, 11:43 PM - 1 Like	#361
Alex645 Site Supporter Join Date: May 2015 Location: Kaneohe, HI Photos: Albums Posts: 3,527	Originally posted by clackers It is absolutely glorious. the Limited has pixie dust and is small. I appreciate when a post shows, not tells. Great lighting doesn't hurt either.

11-12-2020, 04:30 AM - 1 Like	#363
aslyfox Seeker of Knowledge Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Topeka, Kansas Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 24,583 Original Poster	Originally posted by ivanvernon I have a silver 77, and my wife calls it our magic lens. I never get to use it because she keeps it hidden away with her camera kit. sounds like you need another

11-12-2020, 05:22 AM	#364
ivanvernon Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Medina, OH Photos: Albums Posts: 7,224	Originally posted by aslyfox sounds like you need another Actually I have been thinking about that. Now that I have invested about enough to buy a new car (of smaller size and cheaper brand) in medium format cameras and lenses, perhaps I could move to replicating those lenses that seem to have been appropriated more or less permanently from my collection. Most of the lenses she returns promptly after using them, but she just turns a deaf ear to any of my inquiries regarding the 77.

11-12-2020, 03:37 PM	#365
clackers Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Melbourne Photos: Albums Posts: 16,397	Originally posted by Alex645 I appreciate when a post shows, not tells. Great lighting doesn't hurt either. Yeah, it's honestly a vertical fluorescent tube on the bridge wall she's leaning against - you can actually see it in her eye. Shooting in a city at nighttime can give opportunities to do studio-like shots.

11-12-2020, 05:25 PM	#366
aslyfox Seeker of Knowledge Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Topeka, Kansas Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 24,583 Original Poster	honestly I am concerned and confused over a zoom being a " limited " which, of course, were ( are ) all prime lenses otherwise as far as WR if it is bad enough to need it, I'm not out there taking photos just quirky I guess

11-12-2020, 05:43 PM - 1 Like	#367
clackers Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Melbourne Photos: Albums Posts: 16,397	Originally posted by aslyfox honestly I am concerned and confused over a zoom being a " limited " which, of course, were ( are ) all prime lenses otherwise as far as WR if it is bad enough to need it, I'm not out there taking photos just quirky I guess Sure. Having said, that, I've got a silver 20-40 and it's a great lens. If the weather's wet I tend to use it rather than the DA21.

11-12-2020, 05:44 PM - 1 Like	#368
ivanvernon Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Medina, OH Photos: Albums Posts: 7,224	Originally posted by aslyfox honestly I am concerned and confused over a zoom being a " limited " which, of course, were ( are ) all prime lenses otherwise as far as WR if it is bad enough to need it, I'm not out there taking photos just quirky I guess Some people like walking around in the rain and taking photos! It is fun.

11-12-2020, 08:32 PM - 1 Like	#371
Alex645 Site Supporter Join Date: May 2015 Location: Kaneohe, HI Photos: Albums Posts: 3,527	Originally posted by clackers Yeah, it's honestly a vertical fluorescent tube on the bridge wall she's leaning against - you can actually see it in her eye. Shooting in a city at nighttime can give opportunities to do studio-like shots. I think it takes as much skill to see available ambient light and to exploit it as it does to set up lighting in a studio. They are different skills but ultimately it takes a good eye to make either work well. Kudos!

11-12-2020, 08:52 PM - 1 Like	#372
clackers Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Melbourne Photos: Albums Posts: 16,397	Originally posted by dbs So . if you have the 70 do you need the 77 aswell ? Dave Dave, I have both. As you can see, on the K-1 the DA70 Ltd can do much of what the 77 does for the price. You'd need to shoot differently (eg at f1.8) to make a difference. I fill in here with the Pentax 540 flash in HSS.

11-12-2020, 09:59 PM - 1 Like	#373
dbs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Clare Valley S A Photos: Albums Posts: 7,565	Originally posted by clackers Dave, I have both. As you can see, on the K-1 the DA70 Ltd can do much of what the 77 does for the price. You'd need to shoot differently (eg at f1.8) to make a difference. I fill in here with the Pentax 540 flash in HSS. Hi Clackers Is she smiling because she knows you have the 77 as well ?

11-12-2020, 10:16 PM	#374
UncleVanya Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2014 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,459	Originally posted by dbs So . if you have the 70 do you need the 77 as well ? I too have both. They are both excellent in their own way. But I currently only shoot crop.

11-12-2020, 10:35 PM	#375
clackers Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Melbourne Photos: Albums Posts: 16,397	Originally posted by dbs Hi Clackers Is she smiling because she knows you have the 77 as well ? Rapport was a challenge that evening, Dave, because we hadn't met before and she's Russian. But it happened, you can see that in the pic. I find for me, the keepers occur in the final thirty minutes because model and photographer are now in tune. Avedon used to begin sessions shooting without film in his camera, unbeknownst to his subject, to get their fake expressions over and done with. So, the interaction is far more important than the gear. 70 or 77? How would that matter here? The 70 has newer coatings which help a bit with the sun low and almost in the frame, but that's about it.