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08-30-2008, 01:16 AM   #1
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JUPITER-9 85mm

i'm finding a JUPITER-9 85mm f.2

but i find differen versions:
a silver version and a black version.

are there differents?

what is the best?

08-30-2008, 02:13 AM   #2
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Black paint chips away eventually.
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hello ftpaddict

are you sure?

i think that silver version (metal without color) is older version.
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QuoteOriginally posted by platinum Quote
hello ftpaddict

are you sure?

i think that silver version (metal without color) is older version.
Silver is indeed the older variant; but optically they are the same.

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Silver is indeed the older variant; but optically they are the same.
and they are the same also about "flare" (by sun)?
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and they are the same also about "flare" (by sun)?

The black version has an amber coating; which makes it multi-coated
The silver version is single-coated, but the optical design means there's little flare to deal with anyway.

I'd go for whichever is in a better condition.
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The black version has an amber coating; which makes it multi-coated
The silver version is single-coated, but the optical design means there's little flare to deal with anyway.

I'd go for whichever is in a better condition.
thanks a lot for info!

very kind ;-)
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make sure it's M42 mount and not M39

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make sure it's M42 mount and not M39
it is right. thanks
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I have the black, multicoated, m42 version, and it's a very nice lens:




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I have the black, multicoated, m42 version, and it's a very nice lens:

Quit braggin'. (fantastic pictures, by the way)
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QuoteOriginally posted by ftpaddict Quote
Quit braggin'. (fantastic pictures, by the way)
Thanks

One thing about the J-9 - it's not rare, and you can get a basically new one for
$150 shipped from that Russian site - a great alternative to the FA*, A* or Tak
85's.
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i read that silver version can be usually better of black version
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Hi,
The previous posters have covered most of details regarding the J-9, but I will summarize:
  1. Been in production since shortly after WWII
  2. Based on Zeiss Sonnar design and tooling
  3. Several different manufacturers over the years. The current maker is LZOS.
  4. Made in several mounts including M-39, M-42, and Russian bayonet
  5. Early versions are all "silver"
  6. Later versions are black enamel
  7. Black versions labeled "MC" are multi-coated, other black versions may be single or multi-coated. Silver versions are assumed to have some sort of coating.
  8. M-39 versions often have mechanical issues
  9. Even MC versions are flare-prone and should be used with a hood

There has been discussion on various forums regarding early vs. later J-9s. I know of one user on this forum (carpents) that has owned both silver and black versions. My take on the matter is that since build quality has been an issue with the various Russian/Soviet lenses, I would try and find one of recent manufacture (black) that has been gently used. I would also suggest the MC version. It is also worth noting that the J-9 pictures that have been posted to this site have all (to the best of my knowledge) been taken with late-manufacture black versions.

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QuoteOriginally posted by ftpaddict Quote
... there's little flare to deal with anyway.
That has not been my experience. I have the MC version and even with the coating there is are some issues with extraneous light. A deep hood is generally required to retain contrast and avoid image ghosting in bright scenes.

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