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01-25-2018, 07:25 AM - 3 Likes   #16
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It's one of those things where you can't really lose either way, but there will be times whichever you choose when you wish you had the other.

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Well stated .
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Since I'm seriously consider buying a 60-250 (but not a new one) I wonder if there have been any issues with the SDM focus here as well (similar to the 16-50/50-135)? Would you buy a used lens or rather prefer a new copy?
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No issues with SDM with mine. I'm not sure about second hand. As long as it was guaranteed to be in perfect working oredr, and I could check some images for de-centering I might go for a used one. Mine is 5 years old now, has thousands of images taken with it, but it's in for repair because I dropped it. It's a tough little lens, but it can only take so much.

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I purchased mine used from B&H Photo about 2.5 years ago. So far no issues at all. Mine came in essentially mint condition. I would buy used but only with a return period. With any lens there can be issues which may make you decide not to keep it. I have the DA*55, DA*16-50, DA*50-135, and the DA*60-250. All lenses are still working on there original SDM motors. The DA*55 does need to be focused a few times but then it works just fine.
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Thank you for your comments and reassuring me that the 60-250 might be better off in terms of auto focus (SDM) issues.

I just found a new alternative after reading this comment:

"Adam Nov 6th, 2017 2:03PM
We did some internal testing on the 50-135mm and found it to not fully cover FF on its own, but if you pair it with the 1.4x teleconverter, then it does, in fact So you get a decent 75-200mm F4 out of it.


Read more at: https://www.pentaxforums.com/articles/photo-articles/how-to-modify-da-star-60-250mm-f4-full-frame.html#ixzz55Nt8voYw"

Which of those two options would you prefer?

Pentax 60-250mm or Pentax 50-135mm + teleconverter?

Will the AF still fully work when using the teleconverter? Will the optical quality be affected by the teleconverter?
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I've made up my mind: it won't be the 50-135 plus teleconverter.

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QuoteOriginally posted by zeitlos Quote
Which of those two options would you prefer?

Pentax 60-250mm or Pentax 50-135mm + teleconverter?

Will the AF still fully work when using the teleconverter? Will the optical quality be affected by the teleconverter?
I see you made up your mind, but here goes anyway : using the TC will yield a shorter range, slower AF, no foot, ni short an inferior package.

The 60-250 has had a few issues with failed SDM, but the occurrences are much fewer than with other lenses. On a used lens, if it hasn't happened yet, it probably won't happen. And if it's a Hoya or later lens, it's going to be fine.
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QuoteOriginally posted by zeitlos Quote
Pentax 60-250mm or Pentax 50-135mm + teleconverter?

Will the AF still fully work when using the teleconverter? Will the optical quality be affected by the teleconverter?
The DA 60-250 works fine with a teleconverter. The 60-250 is not a fast focusing lens, so it's the same with and without the TC, as far as I can tell. Th 60-250 in low light with a TC is simply not terribly functional. I've had situations, a like a moose in a meadow at first light, where I had to shut off AF and use manual focus. In good light it's fine.

I have a whole album of DA* 60-250 plus TC images.
HD-DA-1-4TC-and-DA60-250 Slideshow by Norm_Head | Photobucket
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Thanks! Interesting.

But the 60-250 + teleconverter has never really been an option for me. Anyways, I just bought a used copy of the 60-250mm today (well, now I'm waiting for it to arrive). I quite confident that I'm gonna be satisfied with it.
I'll keep my Tamron 70-200mm since I got a very good copy, sharp from early on (that means already at f2.8). However, when I'm traveling the 28-105mm plus 60-250mm will be my number one choice. I think, this will do.

I will also take my F135mm 2.8 along, in case I need to shoot under low light conditions. Also the FA35 2.0 and the Limited FA77 1.8.
Besides I will have the Samyang 20mm f1.8 as well, so I think that I'm gonna be set for a lot of different situations. What I already like about the Pentax 60-250 is that it seems to fit perfectly into my Loewepro Protactic 450.

I really hope that I will enjoy the combo 28-105 + 60-250 for traveling since I will leave my Pentax 24-70 2.8 and the Tamron 70-200mm 2.8 at home!

Travelling photography is what I like most (e.g. here: Georgien (Kaukasus): Reise nach Eurasien - einige Eindrücke. ? Pentaxians) and what I mostly (90%) use my equipment for. When I went to the 1 1/2 years ago I realized that I didn't really enjoy my K-1 with the Pentax 24-70mm since it was to bulky for me. Hardly took any pictures. Hopefully this will change. Hopefully I won't regret going for the 28-105 and 60-250mm...
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QuoteOriginally posted by zeitlos Quote
when I'm traveling the 28-105mm plus 60-250mm will be my number one choice. I think, this will do.

I will also take my F135mm 2.8 along, in case I need to shoot under low light conditions. Also the FA35 2.0 and the Limited FA77 1.8.
If you're anything like me, the 135mm will become redundant and will not be used except by design. The 28-105/35/77/60-250 combo will cover all your needs.

For my part when traveling (or not) my standard kit is the 43/77/16-85 (a DA lens, but I like it, and it's slightly wider than the 28-105) and 60-250. Especially now that the 60-250 has been converted, it's a fantastic lens that delivers amazing versatility on FF.

That means the FA50 and DFA 100 macro WR often stay at home. The 21 (another hard to replace DA lens) often comes too, but not always.

QuoteOriginally posted by zeitlos Quote
I really hope that I will enjoy the combo 28-105 + 60-250 for traveling since I will leave my Pentax 24-70 2.8 and the Tamron 70-200mm 2.8 at home!
I'm sure you will.

QuoteOriginally posted by zeitlos Quote
I realized that I didn't really enjoy my K-1 with the Pentax 24-70mm since it was to bulky for me. Hardly took any pictures. Hopefully this will change. Hopefully I won't regret going for the 28-105 and 60-250mm...
Yuo already know the difference between the 24-70 and the 28-105. The 60-250 is smaller than the Tamron but still quite large in itself.
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The K-1, DFA28-105, and DA*60-250 is my main travelling set up. The 28-105 is just an amazing lens for the price. I purchased my 60-250 used from B&H Photo over three years ago and have never had an issue. I keep the Tamron for indoor shoots or for sports. I am like the OP I guess. I know if I purchased the DFA 24-70 it would just sit home most of the time.
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Thanks again for commenting. I'm having a hard time currently. My K-1 is for repair so I can only try the 60-250 on my K-30.
Initially after receiving it I was more or less sure that I wouldn't keep it since it's not that much smaller (nor lighter) than my Tamron 70-200. Well, it has advantages in my camera bag, but I will find a solution for the Tamron to fit in equally well.
However, shooting the 60-250 taught me that it's a Pentax. I like it's colors, the way it renders the background. Okay, just some first shots but well I like what I see.

Pentax DA* 60-250mm / F4,0 IF SDM - Lens Club* ? Pentaxians


Now I'm in a quandary... don't want to keep both, need to clear my head in order to be able to get clean shots... However, my Tamron 2.8 is REALLY GOOD at 2.8. and having the chance to shoot at 2.8 instead of 4.0 sometimes makes the difference...

I would have to spend an additional 140,- euro (plus shipping costs) to modify the Pentax 60-250 for FF...

Hm, not easy!
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I would have to spend an additional 140,- euro (plus shipping costs) to modify the Pentax 60-250 for FF...
Why?

On this side of the ocean, it cost me about 25-30$ USD to print the modified baffle.
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Why?

On this side of the ocean, it cost me about 25-30$ USD to print the modified baffle.
Hey bdery, I've been thinking of taking out the baffle, using a 1/4 to/1/2 inch dremel thingy to expand just the corners and putting it back in. Does that have any hope of working? I guess the thing is, mine only vignettes a little bit in the corners, I was thinking that way, I still get the benefit of some of the masking for when I'm using the lens on APS-c, while removing the corner vignetting for full frame.
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