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04-25-2018, 04:20 PM   #1
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Another K1 Upgrade Lens question

Hi All,

At the moment I have a K-5 with
FA 31mm f1.9
DA15mm f4
DA70mm f2.4
FA50mm f1.4
sigma 70-300mm f4-5.6 dg macro

I am planning on selling the K-5, the DA15 and DA70 and upgrading to a K1 body with a new lens or two for the FF.
I like the idea of a full FA prime selection (FA 43 and FA 77, to complement the FA31). Does anyone rely solely on this stable of lenses? Do you miss anything?
I was also considering a swap with the FA77 to the DFA100 Macro. I like the Macro and WR parts, but I never particularly liked the 100mm focal length (The 70mm DA on the K5 is equal to 105mm).
Also considering a DFA zoom, as a WR lens and body sounds fantastic too. Ive never had a high quality zoom before, only cheap sigmas. Plus my main bugbear with Pentax is Autofocus speed, so Id imagine these would perform a little quicker.

Too many decisions, not enough money.

My photography is just general photography, maybe 60% landscape, 40% portrait. Travel, kids, etc.
Any advice or recommendations?

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The 31, 43, and 77 are the biggest reasons I bought the K1 and are the basis of my bag. I have older 50, 90 and 100 manual focus macros which are all great. Wider I have several 28 manual and the A 24-50. If I want longer there’s the DA 200 or A 300.

Short answer, the 100wr is a great lens, but I would never forgo my 77 for one with the K1.
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QuoteOriginally posted by pmastello Quote
Hi All,

At the moment I have a K-5 with
FA 31mm f1.9
DA15mm f4
DA70mm f2.4
FA50mm f1.4
sigma 70-300mm f4-5.6 dg macro

I am planning on selling the K-5, the DA15 and DA70 and upgrading to a K1 body with a new lens or two for the FF.
I like the idea of a full FA prime selection (FA 43 and FA 77, to complement the FA31). Does anyone rely solely on this stable of lenses? Do you miss anything?
I was also considering a swap with the FA77 to the DFA100 Macro. I like the Macro and WR parts, but I never particularly liked the 100mm focal length (The 70mm DA on the K5 is equal to 105mm).
Also considering a DFA zoom, as a WR lens and body sounds fantastic too. Ive never had a high quality zoom before, only cheap sigmas. Plus my main bugbear with Pentax is Autofocus speed, so Id imagine these would perform a little quicker.

Too many decisions, not enough money.

My photography is just general photography, maybe 60% landscape, 40% portrait. Travel, kids, etc.
Any advice or recommendations?
I would go for either the 24-70mm or 28-105mm D FA lenses. Both are quick to focus; the K-1 deserves a modern AF lens as your go-to walkaround zoom, IMO.

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QuoteOriginally posted by pmastello Quote
. . . I am planning on selling the K-5, the DA15 and DA70 and upgrading to a K1 body with a new lens or two for the FF. . . .

Also considering a DFA zoom, as a WR lens and body sounds fantastic too. I’ve never had a high quality zoom before, only cheap sigmas. Plus my main bugbear with Pentax is Autofocus speed, so I’d imagine these would perform a little quicker.

Too many decisions, not enough money.

My photography is just general photography, maybe 60% landscape, 40% portrait. Travel, kids, etc.
Any advice or recommendations?
have you considered the D FA * 70 - 200mm F2.8 ED DC AW?

" A 70-200mm lens serves many purposes, especially on full frame. It can be used for portraits (both outside and in a studio), sports, weddings, photojournalism, wildlife, concerts and shows. Such a lens also comes with high expectations. Photographers will expect a high level of optical performance, fast AF, and high reliability. "

Read more at: HD Pentax-D FA* 70-200mm F2.8 ED DC AW Review - Introduction | PentaxForums.com Reviews

HD Pentax-D FA* 70-200mm F2.8 ED DC AW Reviews - D FA Zoom Lenses - Pentax Lens Reviews & Lens Database

yes, it is expensive, unless you want to go the " experienced " route and can find one for a good price

yes it is big and heavy

and yes it is good.

https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/122-lens-clubs/321412-pentax-hd-pentax-d...c-aw-club.html

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Oh my gosh, I was in the exact position in January. I started out with the K-1, and got the 3 FA Limited lenses along with the FA 100mm Macro. Sure you could do everything with that gear. But remember that the 3 FA Limited lenses are screw drive focus, and no weather protection. Now, I miss the modern zooms with very fast focus and weather protection. I got the 15-30 just last week and love it. Now, I'm getting the 24-70 next week. I got a little tired of changing lens so much, and misses the 24 mm focal length. If I had it to do again, I would start with the zooms, and get the Limited lenses later, or not at all. You really can't go wrong either way, as far as image quality. Hope this helps.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Aslyfox Quote
have you considered the D FA * 70 - 200mm F2.8 ED DC AW?

" A 70-200mm lens serves many purposes, especially on full frame. It can be used for portraits (both outside and in a studio), sports, weddings, photojournalism, wildlife, concerts and shows. Such a lens also comes with high expectations. Photographers will expect a high level of optical performance, fast AF, and high reliability. "

Read more at: HD Pentax-D FA* 70-200mm F2.8 ED DC AW Review - Introduction | PentaxForums.com Reviews

HD Pentax-D FA* 70-200mm F2.8 ED DC AW Reviews - D FA Zoom Lenses - Pentax Lens Reviews & Lens Database

yes, it is expensive, unless you want to go the " experienced " route and can find one for a good price

yes it is big and heavy

and yes it is good.

Pentax HD PENTAX-D FA* 70-200mm f/2.8 ED DC AW . . . CLUB! - PentaxForums.com
Due to the price of the D FA 70-200 means I would just have the FA 31, FA50 and 70-200. Thats a pretty big gap, isn't it?
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With that trio alone you are going to miss the DA15. While its only about 22 mm "equivalent" that is a very useful focal length. Other than that, you will be very happy with the FA limited trio.
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QuoteOriginally posted by pmastello Quote
Due to the price of the D FA 70-200 means I would just have the FA 31, FA50 and 70-200. Thats a pretty big gap, isn't it?

1 your choice is the correct one, so don't worry about what I or anyone else would do or say

2 the 70-200mm F2.8 covers a lot of ground and has a lot of what you said you were looking for, IMHO, read the user reviews and In Depth Review I linked to for details

3 it gives you a AW ( supposed to be better for dust/moisture protection than WR ) protected lens from short portrait to telephoto

usable for many purposes

4 you would have wide angle - 31 and normalish - 50 lenses on the full frame K 1, you would not have an ultra wide nor long telephoto

5 all lenses usable on an APS-C camera body should you have to put off buying a K 1

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My $0.02

Keep the FA31/1.8 and FA50/1.4 - their rendering is special
A WR zoom would be worthwhile. The DFA28-105 would be my choice over the DFA24-70 (I have them both) because of size, weight, cost and range. If you need speed you have the primes.
Add the DFA100/2.8WR and look for an ultra-wide like the FA20/2.8
Hold on to the Sigma zoom until you decide what super telephoto to blow your hard-earned on.

You will of course end up getting the other two FA limiteds as well. Get the 77 first
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I'm having an internal argument. At first glance, since you have the 31 and 50 in full frame, I'd say go for the 28-105 or 24-70 and then backfill primes from there. But you say 60% landscape, and that makes me say go for the 15-30 now and add the 28-105 or the 77 depending on how much you're using which primes. If it weren't for the landscape bias, I'd say it's easy. Go for a modern WR fast focusing zoom, pick either the 28-105 or 24-70 based on need for a short telephoto versus speed for low light and a little wider angle, and supplement with select primes from there. And also, you say K-1, but based on what I've seen so far, be sure to look at the K-1 II. The AF speed sounds like it is much improved, and the hand held pixel shift could be of interest depending on the type of landscape photography you are doing.
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"My photography is just general photography, maybe 60% landscape, 40% portrait."

I'm sure the DFA 24-70mm would do you well, designed by the guy who did two of the FA Limiteds.

Later on you could add the 70-200 or the future 85mm f1.4.
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Consensus seems to be on the modern WR SDM zooms. Thanks.
One thing I should have mentioned in my original post is that I do a lot of hiking, so weight is a consideration. The 70-200 weighs 2kg! That said, looking at the lens club examples, the 70-200 has really grabbed my attention.

I am thinking the best option for me could be the K1+28-105mm package, with the 70-200 D FA. For multi day hikes, I'd just take the 28-105, and for day hikes, the 70-200's weight wouldn't be an issue. K1 ii would be good, but I'd rather spend the money on the 28-105.

The 15-30 looks great, but not being able to use a filter is a deal breaker for me.
Not having a wide angle would be a small issue, but maybe I will fill that gap later with a Rokinon 14mm or Irix 15mm.

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QuoteOriginally posted by clackers Quote

I'm sure the DFA 24-70mm would do you well, designed by the guy who did two of the FA Limiteds.
Not that anyone would ever know on sight.

(from a PF reviewer)
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Depends on where your sight is directed?
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QuoteOriginally posted by pmastello Quote
I'm a bit rough with my cameras and I replace my UV filter every year as they get grubby.
Crikey! What do you mean by a bit rough? I never use protective filters and have lugged my gear through many dusty musical festivals, and all over the world including ocean cruises and approaching Iguazu falls by river.
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Not having a wide angle would be a small issue, but maybe I will fill that gap later with a Rokinon 14mm or Irix 15mm.
The FA31 is a wide angle on the K-1. 14-15mm is extremely wide, and quite tricky to use well. Something in the 20-24mm range would probably be more useful in the first instance.
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