If you can't afford the 24-70 and 70-200 for the K1 what would you get?

**pres589** · 06-28-2018, 02:44 PM - **1 Like**

28-105 and a good prime somewhere in the range covered by the 70-200 would be of interest to me. FA 135 f2.8's maybe or a Samyang 135 f2.0 perhaps.

**RobA_Oz** · 06-28-2018, 02:49 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by mikeSF

You know about the Pentax FA*28-70/2.8, right?
I would find a used copy and you'll be very pleased.

SMC Pentax-FA* 28-70mm F2.8 AL Reviews - FA Zoom Lenses - Pentax Lens Reviews & Lens Database

I’ll second that. The price of a good one has been edging down for a while, as has that of the FA*80-200/2.8. I have a copy of each, and no desire to replace them with the present-day equivalents.

**UncleVanya** · 06-28-2018, 02:52 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by RobA_Oz

I’ll second that. The price of a good one has been edging down for a while, as has that of the FA*80-200/2.8. I have a copy of each, and no desire to replace them with the present-day equivalents.

I sold a pristine copy of the FA* 80-200 f/2.8 a few years ago. Everyone told me I was nuts. I stand by the decision - not because it wasn't a great lens - but because I still haven't gone full frame and the 50-135 is a gem of a lens that subs quite well for it on crop. The FA* 80-200 is however a fabulous bit of glass. I was surprised to see it render as well or better than the DA* 200 I own.

**Pentax Syntax** · 06-28-2018, 03:31 PM

Originally posted by LennyBloke

A great little pairing would be an FA 24-90 f3.5-4.5 and an F or FA 80-200 f4.7-f.6 - both very capable lenses, won't break your back or your bank.

I second the FA 24-90 suggestion above. Excellent coatings and a lightweight wonder. The 24 wider end of the zoom is more important than the 90 end and so in some ways this is more versatile than the 28-105 (though this a lovely new lens). For the long zoom, I use a 80-320 which is also ok. Not sure even the modern lenses max out the sensor of the K1 or K-1 ii.

---------- Post added 06-28-18 at 06:34 PM ----------

Originally posted by UncleVanya

I sold a pristine copy of the FA* 80-200 f/2.8 a few years ago. Everyone told me I was nuts. I stand by the decision - not because it wasn't a great lens - but because I still haven't gone full frame and the 50-135 is a gem of a lens that subs quite well for it on crop. The FA* 80-200 is however a fabulous bit of glass. I was surprised to see it render as well or better than the DA* 200 I own.

I second this suggestion also. The FA* 80-200 is just a special lens. Not a low cost option though. I have been offered more for that lens than any other at swaps. Can’t part with it.

**Scorpio71GR** · 06-28-2018, 04:35 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by normhead

Releasing a baffle upgrade for the 60-250 would be preferable for a lot of us.

I have 6 3D printed baffles on my desk right now. The same design used in the Home page article. Someone wanted some and never back to me.

**Scorpio71GR** · 06-28-2018, 04:46 PM

I have the K-1 and really have no intention in getting the DFA 15-30, 24-70, or the DFA*70-200. I have a Tamron 70-200. That lens is simply the best bang for buck out there in 70-200 range. I had a copy of the Sigma 70-200 with OS but I sent it back. Too big and heavy. The Tamron can actually fit nicely in my backpack. If you do not need weather sealing and can live with screwdrive, it is a great choice. The DFA 28-105 is simple no brainer. If have a K-1 and use zooms just get one. The Tamron 28-75 is another option and one of the few you can still buy new. Since I have the 28-105 I see no real point in it for me. Sigma made a few 24-70 lenses. I recently saw a few copies go extremely cheap. I purchased a older Sigma 24-60 f2.8 that I found online for $145. It is not the greatest nor the worst. Stopped down a little it does pretty decent. The DA*60-250 is just fantastic on the K-1. Since getting the K-1 it hardly sees the K3. There are alot of options out there unless you want to buy new. Then your options are quite limited.

awscreo · 06-28-2018, 04:48 PM

DFA 28-105, it's a great piece of kit that I take with me almost anywhere, from travel to more dedicated landscape photography outings.

**clackers** · 06-28-2018, 04:58 PM

The Tamron 28-75 and 70-200 are f2.8 standard, small for what they are, have good IQ and can be picked up at low cost second hand.

The Sigma 70-200 can also be picked up relatively cheaply, but is bigger and may need its firmware and mount updated by a Sigma dealer.

The 28-105 has been promoted by Adam amongst others as a low cost substitute for the 24-70. If your shooting style is stopped down when at a normal length, and 28 is wide enough, then sure, why not?

**jatrax** · 06-28-2018, 08:53 PM

Originally posted by normhead

Releasing a baffle upgrade for the 60-250 would be preferable for a lot of us.

Norm those are available. I bought a 3-D printed one from a forum member. Took me maybe an hour to make the swap and that was going slow and careful. It has worked fine for me.

**Just1MoreDave** · 06-28-2018, 10:01 PM

One answer is to not buy the K-1 - stay APS-C.

**clackers** · 06-28-2018, 10:20 PM

Originally posted by Just1MoreDave

One answer is to not buy the K-1 - stay APS-C.

Sure.

Sandy Hancock · 06-28-2018, 10:24 PM

Originally posted by pres589

28-105 and a good prime somewhere in the range covered by the 70-200 would be of interest to me. FA 135 f2.8

^This. The FA135 is tiny, fast, and very nice. A 200mm prime might be even better - the fast, silent, weather-sealed DA*200 is often reasonably priced second hand. Add maybe a F or FA series wide prime and a fast fifty and you're set.

PentaPrime · 06-28-2018, 10:37 PM

I tried the DA 50 mm f1.8 ($150 CAD) on a K-1 in the store but forgot to switch from auto crop mode so I am not sure if the image circle on this lens actually goes full frame or not. On this forum's review it says no but in this thread it says yes it does work full frame.

**Des** · 06-28-2018, 11:42 PM

Originally posted by AggieDad

Anyway, why not expand on the concept from this thread and build a thread or a group or whatever the structure covering all the lenses where folks are making or have made specific direct comparison decisions. Someplace where a member could say "I bought Lens B for only 50% of the cost of Lens A, but it delivers 90% of what Lens A can do and here is why (with examples)."

Originally posted by Just1MoreDave

One answer is to not buy the K-1 - stay APS-C.

Yes I was thinking along the same lines. One alternative to K-1ii + DFA 24-70 f2.8 + DFA 70-200 f2.8 would be K-P + DA*16-50 f2.8 + DA*50-135 f2.8. A lot cheaper and a lot lighter for similar coverage. Not everyone's cup of tea of course but a package to consider.

John Hales · 06-29-2018, 01:25 AM

Originally posted by AggieDad

I have no intent of hijacking your thread, but I was reading the thread and thought: IDEA!

As a retired teacher, I don't always (mostly never) have the money to buy the primo lens of any size or type. So I am always looking for alternatives – especially alternatives where the quality difference is not near as great as the price difference. And I amcsure I am not the only one with these constraints.

Anyway, why not expand on the concept from this thread and build a thread or a group or whatever the structure covering all the lenses where folks are making or have made specific direct comparison decisions. Someplace where a member could say "I bought Lens B for only 50% of the cost of Lens A, but it delivers 90% of what Lens A can do and here is why (with examples)."

Just a thought.

My apologies for the interruption.

Don

Love the idea.

---------- Post added 06-29-18 at 04:33 AM ----------

Originally posted by Just1MoreDave

One answer is to not buy the K-1 - stay APS-C.

That has entered my mind. I would want the K3ii

---------- Post added 06-29-18 at 04:43 AM ----------

Originally posted by Scorpio71GR

I have 6 3D printed baffles on my desk right now. The same design used in the Home page article. Someone wanted some and never back to me.

So would this baffle work on the 16-85 lens also? That would be too easy.

---------- Post added 06-29-18 at 04:44 AM ----------

Thanks for all of your thoughts and opinions.
Food for thought and also reading the user reviews of the lenses mentioned.
I wish they made the 16-85mm for the K1

06-28-2018, 04:35 PM - 1 Like	#35
Scorpio71GR Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Michigan Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,005	Originally posted by normhead Releasing a baffle upgrade for the 60-250 would be preferable for a lot of us. I have 6 3D printed baffles on my desk right now. The same design used in the Home page article. Someone wanted some and never back to me. Last edited by Scorpio71GR; 06-28-2018 at 04:47 PM.

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06-28-2018, 02:44 PM - 1 Like	#31
pres589 Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Wichita, KS Photos: Albums Posts: 4,529	28-105 and a good prime somewhere in the range covered by the 70-200 would be of interest to me. FA 135 f2.8's maybe or a Samyang 135 f2.0 perhaps.

06-28-2018, 02:49 PM - 1 Like	#32
RobA_Oz Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Tasmania, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,197	Originally posted by mikeSF You know about the Pentax FA28-70/2.8, right? I would find a used copy and you'll be very pleased. SMC Pentax-FA 28-70mm F2.8 AL Reviews - FA Zoom Lenses - Pentax Lens Reviews & Lens Database I’ll second that. The price of a good one has been edging down for a while, as has that of the FA*80-200/2.8. I have a copy of each, and no desire to replace them with the present-day equivalents.

06-28-2018, 02:52 PM - 1 Like	#33
UncleVanya Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2014 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,401	Originally posted by RobA_Oz I’ll second that. The price of a good one has been edging down for a while, as has that of the FA80-200/2.8. I have a copy of each, and no desire to replace them with the present-day equivalents. I sold a pristine copy of the FA 80-200 f/2.8 a few years ago. Everyone told me I was nuts. I stand by the decision - not because it wasn't a great lens - but because I still haven't gone full frame and the 50-135 is a gem of a lens that subs quite well for it on crop. The FA* 80-200 is however a fabulous bit of glass. I was surprised to see it render as well or better than the DA* 200 I own.

06-28-2018, 03:31 PM	#34
Pentax Syntax Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Maryland Posts: 595	Originally posted by LennyBloke A great little pairing would be an FA 24-90 f3.5-4.5 and an F or FA 80-200 f4.7-f.6 - both very capable lenses, won't break your back or your bank. I second the FA 24-90 suggestion above. Excellent coatings and a lightweight wonder. The 24 wider end of the zoom is more important than the 90 end and so in some ways this is more versatile than the 28-105 (though this a lovely new lens). For the long zoom, I use a 80-320 which is also ok. Not sure even the modern lenses max out the sensor of the K1 or K-1 ii. ---------- Post added 06-28-18 at 06:34 PM ---------- Originally posted by UncleVanya I sold a pristine copy of the FA* 80-200 f/2.8 a few years ago. Everyone told me I was nuts. I stand by the decision - not because it wasn't a great lens - but because I still haven't gone full frame and the 50-135 is a gem of a lens that subs quite well for it on crop. The FA* 80-200 is however a fabulous bit of glass. I was surprised to see it render as well or better than the DA* 200 I own. I second this suggestion also. The FA* 80-200 is just a special lens. Not a low cost option though. I have been offered more for that lens than any other at swaps. Can’t part with it.

06-28-2018, 04:46 PM	#36
Scorpio71GR Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Michigan Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,005	I have the K-1 and really have no intention in getting the DFA 15-30, 24-70, or the DFA70-200. I have a Tamron 70-200. That lens is simply the best bang for buck out there in 70-200 range. I had a copy of the Sigma 70-200 with OS but I sent it back. Too big and heavy. The Tamron can actually fit nicely in my backpack. If you do not need weather sealing and can live with screwdrive, it is a great choice. The DFA 28-105 is simple no brainer. If have a K-1 and use zooms just get one. The Tamron 28-75 is another option and one of the few you can still buy new. Since I have the 28-105 I see no real point in it for me. Sigma made a few 24-70 lenses. I recently saw a few copies go extremely cheap. I purchased a older Sigma 24-60 f2.8 that I found online for $145. It is not the greatest nor the worst. Stopped down a little it does pretty decent. The DA60-250 is just fantastic on the K-1. Since getting the K-1 it hardly sees the K3. There are alot of options out there unless you want to buy new. Then your options are quite limited.

06-28-2018, 04:48 PM	#37
awscreo Veteran Member Join Date: May 2016 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,722	DFA 28-105, it's a great piece of kit that I take with me almost anywhere, from travel to more dedicated landscape photography outings.

06-28-2018, 04:58 PM	#38
clackers Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Melbourne Photos: Albums Posts: 16,397	The Tamron 28-75 and 70-200 are f2.8 standard, small for what they are, have good IQ and can be picked up at low cost second hand. The Sigma 70-200 can also be picked up relatively cheaply, but is bigger and may need its firmware and mount updated by a Sigma dealer. The 28-105 has been promoted by Adam amongst others as a low cost substitute for the 24-70. If your shooting style is stopped down when at a normal length, and 28 is wide enough, then sure, why not?

06-28-2018, 08:53 PM	#39
jatrax Site Supporter Join Date: May 2010 Location: Washington Cascades Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,991	Originally posted by normhead Releasing a baffle upgrade for the 60-250 would be preferable for a lot of us. Norm those are available. I bought a 3-D printed one from a forum member. Took me maybe an hour to make the swap and that was going slow and careful. It has worked fine for me.

06-28-2018, 10:01 PM	#40
Just1MoreDave Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Aurora, CO Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,340	One answer is to not buy the K-1 - stay APS-C.

06-28-2018, 10:20 PM	#41
clackers Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Melbourne Photos: Albums Posts: 16,397	Originally posted by Just1MoreDave One answer is to not buy the K-1 - stay APS-C. Sure.

06-28-2018, 10:24 PM	#42
Sandy Hancock Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Adelaide Hills, South Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,272	Originally posted by pres589 28-105 and a good prime somewhere in the range covered by the 70-200 would be of interest to me. FA 135 f2.8 ^This. The FA135 is tiny, fast, and very nice. A 200mm prime might be even better - the fast, silent, weather-sealed DA*200 is often reasonably priced second hand. Add maybe a F or FA series wide prime and a fast fifty and you're set.

06-28-2018, 10:37 PM	#43
PentaPrime Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Calgary Posts: 65	I tried the DA 50 mm f1.8 ($150 CAD) on a K-1 in the store but forgot to switch from auto crop mode so I am not sure if the image circle on this lens actually goes full frame or not. On this forum's review it says no but in this thread it says yes it does work full frame.

06-28-2018, 11:42 PM	#44
Des Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Victoria Australia Photos: Albums Posts: 6,423	Originally posted by AggieDad Anyway, why not expand on the concept from this thread and build a thread or a group or whatever the structure covering all the lenses where folks are making or have made specific direct comparison decisions. Someplace where a member could say "I bought Lens B for only 50% of the cost of Lens A, but it delivers 90% of what Lens A can do and here is why (with examples)." Originally posted by Just1MoreDave One answer is to not buy the K-1 - stay APS-C. Yes I was thinking along the same lines. One alternative to K-1ii + DFA 24-70 f2.8 + DFA 70-200 f2.8 would be K-P + DA16-50 f2.8 + DA50-135 f2.8. A lot cheaper and a lot lighter for similar coverage. Not everyone's cup of tea of course but a package to consider.

06-29-2018, 01:25 AM	#45
John Hales Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Photos: Albums Posts: 61 Original Poster	Originally posted by AggieDad I have no intent of hijacking your thread, but I was reading the thread and thought: IDEA! As a retired teacher, I don't always (mostly never) have the money to buy the primo lens of any size or type. So I am always looking for alternatives – especially alternatives where the quality difference is not near as great as the price difference. And I amcsure I am not the only one with these constraints. Anyway, why not expand on the concept from this thread and build a thread or a group or whatever the structure covering all the lenses where folks are making or have made specific direct comparison decisions. Someplace where a member could say "I bought Lens B for only 50% of the cost of Lens A, but it delivers 90% of what Lens A can do and here is why (with examples)." Just a thought. My apologies for the interruption. Don Love the idea. ---------- Post added 06-29-18 at 04:33 AM ---------- Originally posted by Just1MoreDave One answer is to not buy the K-1 - stay APS-C. That has entered my mind. I would want the K3ii ---------- Post added 06-29-18 at 04:43 AM ---------- Originally posted by Scorpio71GR I have 6 3D printed baffles on my desk right now. The same design used in the Home page article. Someone wanted some and never back to me. So would this baffle work on the 16-85 lens also? That would be too easy. ---------- Post added 06-29-18 at 04:44 AM ---------- Thanks for all of your thoughts and opinions. Food for thought and also reading the user reviews of the lenses mentioned. I wish they made the 16-85mm for the K1