What new lens would you purchase on release?

**jatrax** · 07-02-2018, 06:55 PM

Originally posted by cmohr

Yes, Yes I would put the cash down on either a DFA*400/F4 WR or a DFA*250-600/F5.6 WR, the "dream" part is that they would make it.

No worries and I was not calling you out. Just trying to keep everyone on track. I think after this runs awhile I will do a poll based on everyone's contributions to this thread.
A new DFA*250-600 would be a real feather in Ricoh's cap. A statement they are really serious. I almost purchased one once. But for me the return on investment was not there.

**clickclick** · 07-02-2018, 07:28 PM

Originally posted by jatrax

A new DFA*250-600 would be a real feather in Ricoh's cap

That certainly would get my attention, but I'm wondering if I could afford such a creature, or should I say justify it? I have no regrets on purchasing my DFA 150-450, 28-70, or 15-30, so I suppose it would be potentially at a price point I might bite on, but then again, even on sale, the DA 560 seems beyond what makes sense for what I do.

**dadipentak** · 07-02-2018, 07:50 PM - **1 Like**

Well, I dream about a DFA version of the A*135/1.8 and a DFA*400/4 but it's not a slam dunk I'd be in a position to make the buy.

pakinjapan · 07-02-2018, 08:44 PM

DFA15, DFA21 WR f2.8 with the new lens coating but NOT the rounded blades.

I think FA20 size lens is small enough and looks beatiful when mounth on a camera, it is no point to go to pancake size DA21 and no WR.

DeadJohn · 07-03-2018, 06:13 AM

Originally posted by Ronald Oakes

HD FA 16-35 AL WR …… constant 2.8 or 3.5…….. I can dream cant I ?

Sounds nearly identical to the 15-30.

Ishpuini · 07-03-2018, 06:24 AM

DA40-80 Limited (same build/style as the DA20-40)

DA*16-50/2.8 (as rumoured(?) with updated optics)

DA*11-18/2.8 (but we know that one's coming for sure)

Oh... and a DFA30-60 Limited (FF version of the DA20-40) might even make me buy the K-1...

Wim

bdery · 07-03-2018, 10:29 AM

Originally posted by alpheios

I'm desperately waiting for the D-FA 70-200 F4

Get the 60-250 and convert to full frame!

I'd purchase a FF 24-105, ideally F4 constant.

I'd take a good long look at a 20-24 limited prime, especially if it delivered starbursts like the DA21.

alpheios · 07-03-2018, 11:32 AM

Originally posted by bdery

Get the 60-250 and convert to full frame!

I actually thought about that for quite a while and was literally about to buy one but then the 70-200 F4 was announced and I decided to wait for that because I expect it to have better focusing motor, better coating and internal zoom and focus meaning fixed lens dimensions which I prefer.

---------- Post added 3rd Jul 2018 at 20:33 ----------

Originally posted by bdery

I'd purchase a FF 24-105, ideally F4 constant.

Definitely count me in on that one

madbrain · 07-03-2018, 09:27 PM

A full-frame superzoom . Maybe 24-240, 28-300, 28-450, etc. One can dream.

bdery · 07-04-2018, 04:53 AM

Originally posted by alpheios

I actually thought about that for quite a while and was literally about to buy one but then the 70-200 F4 was announced and I decided to wait for that because I expect it to have better focusing motor, better coating and internal zoom and focus meaning fixed lens dimensions which I prefer.

Those are valid arguments. The AF speed is likely to be improved vs the 60-250 if the 70-200 F2.8 is any indication. Internal zooming is also probable, again based on the other design. Regarding coatings, I doubt there will be a visible difference, the 60-250 is already among the best there is.

The current lens also has the advantage of a longer reach. Ad being available now

In fact, considering that the AF system of the 60-250 COULD be upgraded, the internal zooming is probably the only reason to design a 70-200 F4 instead of using the current design.

**savoche** · 07-04-2018, 05:24 AM

Originally posted by tvdtvdtvd

Really hoping the road mapped UWA prime will be a compact 20/4. /2.8 is OK if they can keep the size down, but I really
would prefer a compact, pancake /4. /2.0 would likely be a non-starter unless they conjure magic from a 4th dimension
to hide the bulk.

That's about it for my 'want, will buy immediately on release' list.

That's what I'd like, too. I have an A 20/2.8 but shoot it almost exclusively at f/8-f/11. A compact DFA 20/4 would be very, very hard to resist.

The other lens I'd pay for is a (relatively) compact tele zoom. The 60-250 is nice, but a bit short. Maybe a 100-300/4 or even 100-400/4-5.6 if they can make it at under 1.5 kg. Then again, if I want light and tele I should stick to APS-C

**RobA_Oz** · 07-04-2018, 05:45 AM

My choice would be a replacement for the D FA 28-105, with a wider short FL, say a D FA 24-105.

I would not necessarily be advocating a constant aperture lens, although a Limited lens with a constant aperture of, say, f4 may be acceptable, depending on price. If a longer top end FL could be achieved, so much the better, but my main wish would be for a relatively light, but good quality budget lens, with a broader zoom range than the present optic.

bdery · 07-04-2018, 09:43 AM

Originally posted by RobA_Oz

My choice would be a replacement for the D FA 28-105, with a wider short FL, say a D FA 24-105.

I would not necessarily be advocating a constant aperture lens, although a Limited lens with a constant aperture of, say, f4 may be acceptable, depending on price. If a longer top end FL could be achieved, so much the better, but my main wish would be for a relatively light, but good quality budget lens, with a broader zoom range than the present optic.

Even though I wrote constant F4, I'd be all over a 24-105 F3.5-F5.6, a true equivalent to the 16-85 on APS-C.

**RobA_Oz** · 07-04-2018, 01:53 PM

Originally posted by bdery

Even though I wrote constant F4, I'd be all over a 24-105 F4.5-F5.6, a true equivalent to the 16-85 on APS-C.

Sorry. I thought I’d checked all the previous posts, but I obviously missed yours. No criticism intended, but it’s good to read that I wasn’t alone in this.

bdery · 07-05-2018, 05:28 AM

Originally posted by RobA_Oz

No criticism intended

Of course not!

07-04-2018, 09:43 AM	#43
bdery Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Quebec city, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,357	Originally posted by RobA_Oz My choice would be a replacement for the D FA 28-105, with a wider short FL, say a D FA 24-105. I would not necessarily be advocating a constant aperture lens, although a Limited lens with a constant aperture of, say, f4 may be acceptable, depending on price. If a longer top end FL could be achieved, so much the better, but my main wish would be for a relatively light, but good quality budget lens, with a broader zoom range than the present optic. Even though I wrote constant F4, I'd be all over a 24-105 F3.5-F5.6, a true equivalent to the 16-85 on APS-C. Last edited by bdery; 07-05-2018 at 05:28 AM.

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07-02-2018, 06:55 PM	#31
jatrax Site Supporter Join Date: May 2010 Location: Washington Cascades Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,991 Original Poster	Originally posted by cmohr Yes, Yes I would put the cash down on either a DFA400/F4 WR or a DFA250-600/F5.6 WR, the "dream" part is that they would make it. No worries and I was not calling you out. Just trying to keep everyone on track. I think after this runs awhile I will do a poll based on everyone's contributions to this thread. A new DFA*250-600 would be a real feather in Ricoh's cap. A statement they are really serious. I almost purchased one once. But for me the return on investment was not there.

07-02-2018, 07:28 PM	#32
clickclick Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: May 2016 Location: East Coast Posts: 2,903	Originally posted by jatrax A new DFA*250-600 would be a real feather in Ricoh's cap That certainly would get my attention, but I'm wondering if I could afford such a creature, or should I say justify it? I have no regrets on purchasing my DFA 150-450, 28-70, or 15-30, so I suppose it would be potentially at a price point I might bite on, but then again, even on sale, the DA 560 seems beyond what makes sense for what I do.

07-02-2018, 07:50 PM - 1 Like	#33
dadipentak Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Baltimore, Maryland Photos: Gallery Posts: 11,590	Well, I dream about a DFA version of the A135/1.8 and a DFA400/4 but it's not a slam dunk I'd be in a position to make the buy.

07-02-2018, 08:44 PM	#34
pakinjapan Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Tokyo Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,041	DFA15, DFA21 WR f2.8 with the new lens coating but NOT the rounded blades. I think FA20 size lens is small enough and looks beatiful when mounth on a camera, it is no point to go to pancake size DA21 and no WR.

07-03-2018, 06:13 AM	#35
DeadJohn Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: New York Posts: 4,833	Originally posted by Ronald Oakes HD FA 16-35 AL WR …… constant 2.8 or 3.5…….. I can dream cant I ? Sounds nearly identical to the 15-30.

07-03-2018, 06:24 AM	#36
Ishpuini Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Antwerp, Belgium Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,727	DA40-80 Limited (same build/style as the DA20-40) DA16-50/2.8 (as rumoured(?) with updated optics) DA11-18/2.8 (but we know that one's coming for sure) Oh... and a DFA30-60 Limited (FF version of the DA20-40) might even make me buy the K-1... Wim

07-03-2018, 10:29 AM	#37
bdery Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Quebec city, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,357	Originally posted by alpheios I'm desperately waiting for the D-FA 70-200 F4 Get the 60-250 and convert to full frame! I'd purchase a FF 24-105, ideally F4 constant. I'd take a good long look at a 20-24 limited prime, especially if it delivered starbursts like the DA21.

07-03-2018, 11:32 AM	#38
alpheios Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Bremen Posts: 410	Originally posted by bdery Get the 60-250 and convert to full frame! I actually thought about that for quite a while and was literally about to buy one but then the 70-200 F4 was announced and I decided to wait for that because I expect it to have better focusing motor, better coating and internal zoom and focus meaning fixed lens dimensions which I prefer. ---------- Post added 3rd Jul 2018 at 20:33 ---------- Originally posted by bdery I'd purchase a FF 24-105, ideally F4 constant. Definitely count me in on that one

07-03-2018, 09:27 PM	#39
madbrain Veteran Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 1,341	A full-frame superzoom . Maybe 24-240, 28-300, 28-450, etc. One can dream.

07-04-2018, 04:53 AM	#40
bdery Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Quebec city, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,357	Originally posted by alpheios I actually thought about that for quite a while and was literally about to buy one but then the 70-200 F4 was announced and I decided to wait for that because I expect it to have better focusing motor, better coating and internal zoom and focus meaning fixed lens dimensions which I prefer. Those are valid arguments. The AF speed is likely to be improved vs the 60-250 if the 70-200 F2.8 is any indication. Internal zooming is also probable, again based on the other design. Regarding coatings, I doubt there will be a visible difference, the 60-250 is already among the best there is. The current lens also has the advantage of a longer reach. Ad being available now In fact, considering that the AF system of the 60-250 COULD be upgraded, the internal zooming is probably the only reason to design a 70-200 F4 instead of using the current design.

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07-04-2018, 05:24 AM	#41
savoche Master of the obvious Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Lowlands of Norway Posts: 18,311	Originally posted by tvdtvdtvd Really hoping the road mapped UWA prime will be a compact 20/4. /2.8 is OK if they can keep the size down, but I really would prefer a compact, pancake /4. /2.0 would likely be a non-starter unless they conjure magic from a 4th dimension to hide the bulk. That's about it for my 'want, will buy immediately on release' list. That's what I'd like, too. I have an A 20/2.8 but shoot it almost exclusively at f/8-f/11. A compact DFA 20/4 would be very, very hard to resist. The other lens I'd pay for is a (relatively) compact tele zoom. The 60-250 is nice, but a bit short. Maybe a 100-300/4 or even 100-400/4-5.6 if they can make it at under 1.5 kg. Then again, if I want light and tele I should stick to APS-C

07-04-2018, 05:45 AM	#42
RobA_Oz Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Tasmania, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,197	My choice would be a replacement for the D FA 28-105, with a wider short FL, say a D FA 24-105. I would not necessarily be advocating a constant aperture lens, although a Limited lens with a constant aperture of, say, f4 may be acceptable, depending on price. If a longer top end FL could be achieved, so much the better, but my main wish would be for a relatively light, but good quality budget lens, with a broader zoom range than the present optic.

07-04-2018, 01:53 PM	#44
RobA_Oz Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Tasmania, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,197	Originally posted by bdery Even though I wrote constant F4, I'd be all over a 24-105 F4.5-F5.6, a true equivalent to the 16-85 on APS-C. Sorry. I thought I’d checked all the previous posts, but I obviously missed yours. No criticism intended, but it’s good to read that I wasn’t alone in this.

07-05-2018, 05:28 AM	#45
bdery Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Quebec city, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,357	Originally posted by RobA_Oz No criticism intended Of course not!