The New Fat Fifty is Here (first day shooting)

beholder3 · 07-25-2018, 04:14 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by BigMackCam

That is one ferocious, fabulous, fantastic, fine Fat Fifty

You forgot to put "feline" in there.

Sandy Hancock · 07-25-2018, 04:25 AM

Originally posted by boblivious

Any idea how it compares to the older SDM, maybe like the *55?

That will be first in my order of business when I get my copy. Add the A50/1.2 into the mix too (with respect to image quality, not AF speed of course!).

**RobA_Oz** · 07-25-2018, 04:37 AM

Originally posted by Sandy Hancock

That will be first in my order of business when I get my copy. Add the A50/1.2 into the mix too (with respect to image quality, not AF speed of course!).

And the FA50/2.8 macro, assuming you have one?

Sandy Hancock · 07-25-2018, 04:44 AM

Originally posted by RobA_Oz

And the FA50/2.8 macro, assuming you have one?

...which I don't.

Perhaps I could include the FA 43/1.9, and maybe the DFA 645 55/2.8 on the 645Z? Neither will compete for shallow depth of field though.

**Rondec** · 07-25-2018, 05:31 AM - **1 Like**

Looks really nice.

Great that Pentax was able to release this during the summer months in the Northern Hemisphere. It's always tough when they release gear in January, because somehow all of the photos then have a gray-ish quality that leaves something to be desired.

Of course it is different for all of those non-existent people who live "down under..."

johnkrumm · 07-25-2018, 05:38 AM

Originally posted by biz-engineer

Thanks a lot for sharing those photographs. I'd have one question: how silent is the lens? If I understood correctly, it doesn't have an aperture lever, so no zippp when switching on the K1?

Compared to my other lenses, pretty much absolutely silent. A small whisper.

---------- Post added 07-25-18 at 05:46 AM ----------

Originally posted by Medex

Thank you for nice pictures. Could you do full height and torso portraits at f1.4 and post here? Thank you

That might take longer. My wife is out of town and I’m not a “can I take your picture” guy. It’s definitely sharp wide open, but of course it won’t have the complete background blur for that compared to a longer lens.

---------- Post added 07-25-18 at 05:50 AM ----------

Originally posted by RobA_Oz

Since Pentax Australia has none in stock at the moment, my bank balance is safe for the moment.

On the other hand, I’m a little surprised at your comment about the AF being (I presume, comparatively) slow on this lens. After all the talk about its new ring-motor AF drive, I would have expected it to be fairly quick.

Not slow, I said medium, in between. I think my Tamron 28-70 2.8 might be quicker. Also might be partly perception because of the near silence. Mostly it’s probably geared for heavy glass.

---------- Post added 07-25-18 at 06:00 AM ----------

Originally posted by Sandy Hancock

...which I don't.

Perhaps I could include the FA 43/1.9, and maybe the DFA 645 55/2.8 on the 645Z? Neither will compete for shallow depth of field though.

I have the FA 50 2.8 macro, which is a great lens I think. This one has nicer contrast and color, better bokeh, and is equally good edge to edge.

The 43 limited also puts up a good fight and I will definitely still use it. It has competitive sharpness stopped down, especially in the center, and good contrast. The new 50 kills it with bokeh, f 1.4 sharpness, and focusing distance.

johnkrumm · 07-25-2018, 07:27 AM

Originally posted by surfar

Fat Fifyy it is....bring on the Twide twenty!

Yes, I should have this one paid off by the time the twenty comes out. : )

Looking forward to the twenty and maybe 35 (I forget if that's on the roadmap). Also the 85 should be a real treat for those who want it.

I'm also looking forward to my first walk in the rain with this lens. It's my only all weather lens.

---------- Post added 07-25-18 at 07:31 AM ----------

Just checking speed and sound again this morning. It's not a slow focuser, it's just not as blazing as something like my 12-40 2.8 on my Olympus EM1.

For sound, there is a light "ch" when you turn the camera on, and then when focusing, zero motor sound, but you can hear the glass make some very light sounds as it changes position.

**Larrymc** · 07-25-2018, 08:38 AM - **1 Like**

Fantastic shots, looks like it renders great results!! You need to copyright that name right now to collect your royalties......

**mattb123** · 07-25-2018, 09:00 AM - **1 Like**

Photos look great and wow, that thing is not subtle!

pathdoc · 07-25-2018, 09:14 AM

Originally posted by johnkrumm

It totally failed the hipster in a cafe test.

Fool. Any true Pentaxian knows you need an S1a or SV with a radioactive Tak 50/1.4 for that.

On a more serious note, that is a BIG fifty - looks at least as big as an M135/3.5 to me. Gorgeous as the images are, I think I'll be sticking with my FA50/1.4, thank you very much!

**gofour3** · 07-25-2018, 09:46 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by pathdoc

On a more serious note, that is a BIG fifty - looks at least as big as an M135/3.5 to me.

It could be worse had Pentax released a D FA*50/1.2 lens instead!

Phil.

**baldeagle21b** · 07-25-2018, 09:55 AM

Originally posted by pathdoc

Fool. Any true Pentaxian knows you need an S1a or SV with a radioactive Tak 50/1.4 for that.

Guess I fail the hipster test then. Closest I can come is a black Spotmatic with a S-M-C 85mm f/1.8.

timw4mail · 07-25-2018, 09:58 AM

Originally posted by gofour3

It could be worse had Pentax released a D FA*50/1.2 lens instead!

Phil.

Does an autofocus 50/1.2 exist?

Ronald Oakes · 07-25-2018, 10:00 AM

Originally posted by timw4mail

Does an autofocus 50/1.2 exist?

Only in your wildest dreams !

**gofour3** · 07-25-2018, 10:06 AM

Originally posted by timw4mail

Does an autofocus 50/1.2 exist?

Nope the manual focus A50/1.2 was the last one Pentax made. Must have been too expensive/difficult for Pentax to make a 50/1.2 AF lens?

Phil.

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07-25-2018, 04:14 AM - 1 Like	#31
beholder3 Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 3,112	Originally posted by BigMackCam That is one ferocious, fabulous, fantastic, fine Fat Fifty You forgot to put "feline" in there.

07-25-2018, 04:25 AM	#32
Sandy Hancock Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Adelaide Hills, South Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,275	Originally posted by boblivious Any idea how it compares to the older SDM, maybe like the *55? That will be first in my order of business when I get my copy. Add the A50/1.2 into the mix too (with respect to image quality, not AF speed of course!).

07-25-2018, 04:37 AM	#33
RobA_Oz Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Tasmania, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,209	Originally posted by Sandy Hancock That will be first in my order of business when I get my copy. Add the A50/1.2 into the mix too (with respect to image quality, not AF speed of course!). And the FA50/2.8 macro, assuming you have one?

07-25-2018, 04:44 AM	#34
Sandy Hancock Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Adelaide Hills, South Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,275	Originally posted by RobA_Oz And the FA50/2.8 macro, assuming you have one? ...which I don't. Perhaps I could include the FA 43/1.9, and maybe the DFA 645 55/2.8 on the 645Z? Neither will compete for shallow depth of field though.

07-25-2018, 05:31 AM - 1 Like	#35
Rondec Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gladys, Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 27,663	Looks really nice. Great that Pentax was able to release this during the summer months in the Northern Hemisphere. It's always tough when they release gear in January, because somehow all of the photos then have a gray-ish quality that leaves something to be desired. Of course it is different for all of those non-existent people who live "down under..."

07-25-2018, 05:38 AM	#36
johnkrumm Senior Member Join Date: May 2016 Location: Duluth, MN Posts: 141 Original Poster	Originally posted by biz-engineer Thanks a lot for sharing those photographs. I'd have one question: how silent is the lens? If I understood correctly, it doesn't have an aperture lever, so no zippp when switching on the K1? Compared to my other lenses, pretty much absolutely silent. A small whisper. ---------- Post added 07-25-18 at 05:46 AM ---------- Originally posted by Medex Thank you for nice pictures. Could you do full height and torso portraits at f1.4 and post here? Thank you That might take longer. My wife is out of town and I’m not a “can I take your picture” guy. It’s definitely sharp wide open, but of course it won’t have the complete background blur for that compared to a longer lens. ---------- Post added 07-25-18 at 05:50 AM ---------- Originally posted by RobA_Oz Since Pentax Australia has none in stock at the moment, my bank balance is safe for the moment. On the other hand, I’m a little surprised at your comment about the AF being (I presume, comparatively) slow on this lens. After all the talk about its new ring-motor AF drive, I would have expected it to be fairly quick. Not slow, I said medium, in between. I think my Tamron 28-70 2.8 might be quicker. Also might be partly perception because of the near silence. Mostly it’s probably geared for heavy glass. ---------- Post added 07-25-18 at 06:00 AM ---------- Originally posted by Sandy Hancock ...which I don't. Perhaps I could include the FA 43/1.9, and maybe the DFA 645 55/2.8 on the 645Z? Neither will compete for shallow depth of field though. I have the FA 50 2.8 macro, which is a great lens I think. This one has nicer contrast and color, better bokeh, and is equally good edge to edge. The 43 limited also puts up a good fight and I will definitely still use it. It has competitive sharpness stopped down, especially in the center, and good contrast. The new 50 kills it with bokeh, f 1.4 sharpness, and focusing distance.

07-25-2018, 07:27 AM	#37
johnkrumm Senior Member Join Date: May 2016 Location: Duluth, MN Posts: 141 Original Poster	Originally posted by surfar Fat Fifyy it is....bring on the Twide twenty! Yes, I should have this one paid off by the time the twenty comes out. : ) Looking forward to the twenty and maybe 35 (I forget if that's on the roadmap). Also the 85 should be a real treat for those who want it. I'm also looking forward to my first walk in the rain with this lens. It's my only all weather lens. ---------- Post added 07-25-18 at 07:31 AM ---------- Just checking speed and sound again this morning. It's not a slow focuser, it's just not as blazing as something like my 12-40 2.8 on my Olympus EM1. For sound, there is a light "ch" when you turn the camera on, and then when focusing, zero motor sound, but you can hear the glass make some very light sounds as it changes position.

07-25-2018, 08:38 AM - 1 Like	#38
Larrymc Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Mississippi, USA Posts: 5,252	Fantastic shots, looks like it renders great results!! You need to copyright that name right now to collect your royalties......

07-25-2018, 09:00 AM - 1 Like	#39
mattb123 Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Colorado High Country Photos: Gallery Posts: 10,873	Photos look great and wow, that thing is not subtle!

07-25-2018, 09:14 AM	#40
pathdoc Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2015 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,381	Originally posted by johnkrumm It totally failed the hipster in a cafe test. Fool. Any true Pentaxian knows you need an S1a or SV with a radioactive Tak 50/1.4 for that. On a more serious note, that is a BIG fifty - looks at least as big as an M135/3.5 to me. Gorgeous as the images are, I think I'll be sticking with my FA50/1.4, thank you very much!

07-25-2018, 09:46 AM - 2 Likes	#41
gofour3 Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 8,092	Originally posted by pathdoc On a more serious note, that is a BIG fifty - looks at least as big as an M135/3.5 to me. It could be worse had Pentax released a D FA*50/1.2 lens instead! Phil.

07-25-2018, 09:55 AM	#42
baldeagle21b Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 223	Originally posted by pathdoc Fool. Any true Pentaxian knows you need an S1a or SV with a radioactive Tak 50/1.4 for that. Guess I fail the hipster test then. Closest I can come is a black Spotmatic with a S-M-C 85mm f/1.8.

07-25-2018, 09:58 AM	#43
timw4mail Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Driving a Mirage Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,670	Originally posted by gofour3 It could be worse had Pentax released a D FA*50/1.2 lens instead! Phil. Does an autofocus 50/1.2 exist?

07-25-2018, 10:00 AM	#44
Ronald Oakes Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,585	Originally posted by timw4mail Does an autofocus 50/1.2 exist? Only in your wildest dreams !

07-25-2018, 10:06 AM	#45
gofour3 Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 8,092	Originally posted by timw4mail Does an autofocus 50/1.2 exist? Nope the manual focus A50/1.2 was the last one Pentax made. Must have been too expensive/difficult for Pentax to make a 50/1.2 AF lens? Phil.