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SSGGeezer · 07-25-2018, 09:13 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Ronald Oakes

Images look fantastic ! Silent focus sounds amazing !
The size and weight is undeniably Repulsive....

I don't even have a K-1 and I am kind of excited about this lens because I love well designed gear of any kind and this lens is pretty spiffy! And compared to my Sigma Zoom, it is a lightweight.

Ronald Oakes · 07-25-2018, 09:23 PM

Originally posted by SSGGeezer

I don't even have a K-1 and I am kind of excited about this lens because I love well designed gear of any kind and this lens is pretty spiffy! And compared to my Sigma Zoom, it is a lightweight.

For the $1200 price of this lens.....??? A lightly used K-1 fits easily into your future !

awscreo · 07-25-2018, 09:34 PM - **1 Like**

So hard to not want this lens now

I have a feeling ill eventually pick one up for myself

Dericali · 07-26-2018, 03:49 AM

I'd like to see some composed portraits with this lens, I think that would be my main use for it....

johnkrumm · 07-26-2018, 06:39 AM

Originally posted by Dericali

I'd like to see some composed portraits with this lens, I think that would be my main use for it....

We should start seeing it in the hands of more people soon enough, including a few forum members. I'm a little shy about asking strangers, and my wife is out of town.

**monochrome** · 07-26-2018, 07:44 AM

Originally posted by johnkrumm

We should start seeing it in the hands of more people soon enough, including a few forum members. I'm a little shy about asking strangers, and my wife is out of town.

I have children and grandchildren in town

whenever it gets here . . .

I should think I will post some (fairly amateur available light) sample portraits late next week.

BrianR · 07-26-2018, 09:34 AM - **5 Likes**

Why not take complete ownership of the size and awesomeness and spell it "Phat Fifty", as the cool kids would say? Maybe even the "Phat Phiphty" to conphuse pholks

Amoon · 07-26-2018, 11:07 AM

Wow, your photos look great.

MJKoski · 07-26-2018, 01:45 PM

Most interesting thing to me was the sunstar. It is comparable to sharp stylish 35mm macro ltd pattern.

normhead · 07-26-2018, 02:09 PM - **3 Likes**

Awesome images. They make the hurt of not being able to afford it so much worse. Thanks for that.

MJKoski · 07-26-2018, 02:52 PM - **1 Like**

I do not get the hype. If f/1.4 and AF is needed then sure. Otherwise 50mm makro-planar rules the kingdom at 1/2 - 2/3 of the price. And that is native K-mount version. And it weights about half in its FULL METAL JACKET.

**BigMackCam** · 07-26-2018, 03:12 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by MJKoski

I do not get the hype.

What hype?

I don't think I've seen any... In fact, as with most Pentax products, we've seen very little publicity about it... at least from Ricoh itself.

Originally posted by MJKoski

If f/1.4 and AF is needed then sure.

Boom! And there you have it. That's a big part of what this lens is about... f/1.4 and AF, with outstanding IQ at all apertures (allegedly - I haven't used it myself, but I'd like to... it looks pretty darned good).

Originally posted by MJKoski

Otherwise 50mm makro-planar rules the kingdom at 1/2 - 2/3 of the price. And that is native K-mount version. And it weights about half in its FULL METAL JACKET.

Whether the Zeiss 50mm Makro-Planar f/2 rules the kingdom is, as you and I have previously discussed on other matters, a highly subjective opinion (consider for a moment the out-of-focus highlights with brighter edges compared to the Pentax lens - some won't mind that, others will). For those situations where MF is practical, and for those that are happy using it (we're all different, right?), I've no doubt there are other lighter-weight (due to simpler optical formula) yet still optically-excellent options than the new Pentax AF lens. Right now, though, I don't see another 50mm f/1.4 AF offering that promises the same level of IQ as this new model. So, if there is indeed some hype that I've missed, I'd guess that's the reason for it

**clackers** · 07-26-2018, 04:50 PM

Originally posted by MJKoski

I do not get the hype. If f/1.4 and AF is needed then sure.

Well, that's right. Some Zeiss manual focus, f2 doesn't qualify.

And there is already the FA50 f1.4 and DA*55 f1.4, fine lenses in their own ways, but this thing is a different beast again.

timw4mail · 07-26-2018, 06:22 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by MJKoski

I do not get the hype. If f/1.4 and AF is needed then sure. Otherwise 50mm makro-planar rules the kingdom at 1/2 - 2/3 of the price. And that is native K-mount version. And it weights about half in its FULL METAL JACKET.

Considering F2 has long been the realm of cheap kit 50s, I've never found that spec impressive.

But beyond spec trashing, Pentax definitely had a reason for remaking the FA 50/1.4, otherwise they'd continue making money off of a lens that Ricoh didn't design.

lytrytyr · 07-26-2018, 08:22 PM

Originally posted by timw4mail

Considering F2 has long been the realm of cheap kit 50s, I've never found that spec impressive.

It's the uniquely useful compromise betwen macro (1:2) and speed (f/2) that makes that spec impressive.

---------- Post added 07-26-18 at 10:42 PM ----------

Originally posted by BigMackCam

What hype? I don't think I've seen any.

There is this from the Ricoh Japan site:
"it produces extra-sharp, high-contrast images free of flare and ghost images"
which doesn't quite jibe with OP's flare test (image #19).

Of course, if you want such a high degree of correction (15 elements),
that's the small price you have to pay.

Anyway, I think our Finnish friend is referring to the enthusiasm expressed here,
not the official Ricoh publicity.

07-26-2018, 03:12 PM - 2 Likes	#72
BigMackCam Digitiser of Film Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: North East of England Posts: 20,705	Originally posted by MJKoski I do not get the hype. What hype? I don't think I've seen any... In fact, as with most Pentax products, we've seen very little publicity about it... at least from Ricoh itself. Originally posted by MJKoski If f/1.4 and AF is needed then sure. Boom! And there you have it. That's a big part of what this lens is about... f/1.4 and AF, with outstanding IQ at all apertures (allegedly - I haven't used it myself, but I'd like to... it looks pretty darned good). Originally posted by MJKoski Otherwise 50mm makro-planar rules the kingdom at 1/2 - 2/3 of the price. And that is native K-mount version. And it weights about half in its FULL METAL JACKET. Whether the Zeiss 50mm Makro-Planar f/2 rules the kingdom is, as you and I have previously discussed on other matters, a highly subjective opinion (consider for a moment the out-of-focus highlights with brighter edges compared to the Pentax lens - some won't mind that, others will). For those situations where MF is practical, and for those that are happy using it (we're all different, right?), I've no doubt there are other lighter-weight (due to simpler optical formula) yet still optically-excellent options than the new Pentax AF lens. Right now, though, I don't see another 50mm f/1.4 AF offering that promises the same level of IQ as this new model. So, if there is indeed some hype that I've missed, I'd guess that's the reason for it Last edited by BigMackCam; 07-26-2018 at 03:26 PM.

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07-25-2018, 09:13 PM - 1 Like	#61
SSGGeezer Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Indiana, U.S. Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,845	Originally posted by Ronald Oakes Images look fantastic ! Silent focus sounds amazing ! The size and weight is undeniably Repulsive.... I don't even have a K-1 and I am kind of excited about this lens because I love well designed gear of any kind and this lens is pretty spiffy! And compared to my Sigma Zoom, it is a lightweight.

07-25-2018, 09:23 PM	#62
Ronald Oakes Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,585	Originally posted by SSGGeezer I don't even have a K-1 and I am kind of excited about this lens because I love well designed gear of any kind and this lens is pretty spiffy! And compared to my Sigma Zoom, it is a lightweight. For the $1200 price of this lens.....??? A lightly used K-1 fits easily into your future !

07-25-2018, 09:34 PM - 1 Like	#63
awscreo Veteran Member Join Date: May 2016 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,722	So hard to not want this lens now I have a feeling ill eventually pick one up for myself

07-26-2018, 03:49 AM	#64
Dericali Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Berlin Posts: 298	I'd like to see some composed portraits with this lens, I think that would be my main use for it....

07-26-2018, 06:39 AM	#65
johnkrumm Senior Member Join Date: May 2016 Location: Duluth, MN Posts: 141 Original Poster	Originally posted by Dericali I'd like to see some composed portraits with this lens, I think that would be my main use for it.... We should start seeing it in the hands of more people soon enough, including a few forum members. I'm a little shy about asking strangers, and my wife is out of town.

07-26-2018, 07:44 AM	#66
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by johnkrumm We should start seeing it in the hands of more people soon enough, including a few forum members. I'm a little shy about asking strangers, and my wife is out of town. I have children and grandchildren in town whenever it gets here . . . I should think I will post some (fairly amateur available light) sample portraits late next week.

07-26-2018, 09:34 AM - 5 Likes	#67
BrianR Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Ontario Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,332	Why not take complete ownership of the size and awesomeness and spell it "Phat Fifty", as the cool kids would say? Maybe even the "Phat Phiphty" to conphuse pholks

07-26-2018, 11:07 AM	#68
Amoon Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 155	Wow, your photos look great.

07-26-2018, 01:45 PM	#69
MJKoski Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 1,784	Most interesting thing to me was the sunstar. It is comparable to sharp stylish 35mm macro ltd pattern.

07-26-2018, 02:09 PM - 3 Likes	#70
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	Awesome images. They make the hurt of not being able to afford it so much worse. Thanks for that.

07-26-2018, 02:52 PM - 1 Like	#71
MJKoski Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 1,784	I do not get the hype. If f/1.4 and AF is needed then sure. Otherwise 50mm makro-planar rules the kingdom at 1/2 - 2/3 of the price. And that is native K-mount version. And it weights about half in its FULL METAL JACKET.

07-26-2018, 04:50 PM	#73
clackers Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Melbourne Photos: Albums Posts: 16,397	Originally posted by MJKoski I do not get the hype. If f/1.4 and AF is needed then sure. Well, that's right. Some Zeiss manual focus, f2 doesn't qualify. And there is already the FA50 f1.4 and DA*55 f1.4, fine lenses in their own ways, but this thing is a different beast again.

07-26-2018, 06:22 PM - 1 Like	#74
timw4mail Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Driving a Mirage Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,670	Originally posted by MJKoski I do not get the hype. If f/1.4 and AF is needed then sure. Otherwise 50mm makro-planar rules the kingdom at 1/2 - 2/3 of the price. And that is native K-mount version. And it weights about half in its FULL METAL JACKET. Considering F2 has long been the realm of cheap kit 50s, I've never found that spec impressive. But beyond spec trashing, Pentax definitely had a reason for remaking the FA 50/1.4, otherwise they'd continue making money off of a lens that Ricoh didn't design.

07-26-2018, 08:22 PM	#75
lytrytyr Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2011 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,310	Originally posted by timw4mail Considering F2 has long been the realm of cheap kit 50s, I've never found that spec impressive. It's the uniquely useful compromise betwen macro (1:2) and speed (f/2) that makes that spec impressive. ---------- Post added 07-26-18 at 10:42 PM ---------- Originally posted by BigMackCam What hype? I don't think I've seen any. There is this from the Ricoh Japan site: "it produces extra-sharp, high-contrast images free of flare and ghost images" which doesn't quite jibe with OP's flare test (image #19). Of course, if you want such a high degree of correction (15 elements), that's the small price you have to pay. Anyway, I think our Finnish friend is referring to the enthusiasm expressed here, not the official Ricoh publicity.

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