Originally posted by RKKS08 Some explanations for non-German speaking members in regard to the test from 2008, to which I linked in post #28.
The test included the following lenses "name elements/groups" "I" means integrated lens-shade:
SMC-F 2.8/135 8/7 I
SMC-A 2.8/135 4/4 I
SMC-K 2.5/135 6/6 -
SMC-M 3.5/135 5/5 I
Takumar 2.5/135 [Bayonet] 4/4 I
Takumar 2.8/135 [Bayonet] 4/4 I
and as a reference:
Auto Revuenon 2.8/135 ?/? I
SMC-DA 4-5.8/55-300 @135 12/8
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I've gone back to your post, and downloaded the pdf of the test, plus others concerning a few vintage Pentax lenses, plus Voigtlander ones (tested on a Nikon).
I will go through all of them
I love vintage lens, and (with all the caveats, that you mentioned, at least in part) I like to see tests that show how those lenses perform.
The thread has evolved in the meantime, crop vs. FF field of view, etc... but I feel I have to congratulate for the link you provided, and for the explanation in english (for the joy of those who know nothing about german language).
I like this kind of posts. My compliments for the interesting info you made available to the forum members. I'm sure some enthusiast will find the test very useful. It will stay as a reference for future forum members, at least until the pdf's don't get removed from the Internet.
Regarding PK Takumars, I believe they were not made by Pentax, not in the same factory where SMC Pentax and Pentax-A objectives were manufactured.
No way they had a different coating process available in the same structure.
I believe they were built by a third party (all in Taiwan?), and made to look externally as all the other Pentax lenses.
They could share mechanical components, though.
I don't think the Takumar Bayonet's were inferior to most of the 135mm's made at the time. I simply believe those lenses were not Pentax, and that there could be an equivalent with different aesthetics sold with a different brand. Who knows.
The nature of the test (performed on crop format) allows the tested optics to give their best. Only the center of the field is examined.
As I'm currently shooting 99% of the times with a full frame (K-1), I'd be curious to know how the same lenses rated outside of the APS-C frame.
I guess that the number of elements has its importance. I believe that lenses made in the same period, with similar focal/aperture, designed by the same team, but with a more complex optical layout, should provide a better level of performance. Other way there would have been no interest in making them in the first place. If you can do well with only four elements, why go for six?
I believe the higher level of correction provided by a more complex design should show in particular at the borders of the image.
The center was already good enough with a classic tele design of just four elements. Especially at f/3.5.
I expect that the difference between the various optics would show more on FF, with five or six elements ones having an edge over the others.
Of course it's not only about elements number. I'm taking special glasses out of the equation... but AFAIK even in Pentax-A times no short teles used such glasses.
All that to say that it would have been nice to check FF performance... not their fault, of course the K-1 was far to come!
Last edited by cyberjunkie; 09-03-2018 at 11:34 AM.