Originally posted by englishphotographer Have you considered the Zeiss 35mm? I've not tried it and it's manual focus but apparently it's an excellent performer. All of them aren't that easy to find anyway so it might be a case of what's available at the best price near you. I'd love the 77mm, my friend who worked for Pentax had an amazing copy that he outright refused to sell!
Nah, not interested in manual focus at this time, not because I can't manual focus (my friend on the weekend actually laughed at me because I use manual focus with my FA77 more than in auto focus mode, heh), and I used to own a Samyang 85/1.4 that I too got satisfying results with (and I have a Tenpa 1.22 to assist with all of that).... but... I actually find nailing wide open shots on wide angle lenses far
far harder than doing the same with longer focal lengths :/
I sold about 4 lenses to afford the 77, so it wasn't a decision I made lightly. I was very happy with the Samyang 85, but there were a few sessions where AF was absolutely necessary, and not having something of a similar focal length and aperture to fall back on (with AF) really started to hurt. The 85 was also quite large (especially with the hood), so I made the choice to switch and clear some shelf space at the same time, perhaps downgrade on IQ/immense DoF shenanigans, but gain a smaller lighter prime with AF (albeit noisy), started to make more sense.
So far I feel I made the right decision, quite happy with it.
Originally posted by leekil I wouldn't say they are in competition; the focal lengths are significantly different. It's 70° vs. 53° FOV, similar to the difference between 50mm and 35mm.
I must have been high when I said that. hehe. Nah, but in all honesty I have seen some similar resolving portrait images done with both the 43 and 31, I'll go find them...
k.. 2mins later I found them xD
All credit goes to Ireneusz Ciejka, fantastic shots I think you'll all agree.
FA77@1.8
FA43@1.9
FA31@1.8
Now if I was to comment on these shots (which I will hehe), I would say this. The FA77 is the strongest 'portrait' shot of the lot, the most profound bokeh and the subject gets all the attention (as you would hope with a portrait shot). However, the context of where the boy is being snapped at is a little more vague, pay attention to the building and how much we see of it and now look at the other two shots.
To my mind there isn't a massive difference between the 43 and 31, both give pleasing 'context' portrait shots with clearer (less pronounced) bokeh along with the wider FoV so that you can absorb more of the surroundings of where the lad is (compared to the 77).
Now look between the 43 and 31 more closely... ask yourself... was stepping back a bit to take the 43 shot (compared to taking the 31) and losing some of the building in the shot really worth what is basically twice the price of the 43? That's kinda where I'm at with this process. I mean I like the 31 shot more, but twice the price over a FA43 more? Hmm...