HELP A Sears 60-300mm is stuck on my K-1

**Botanizer** · 12-29-2018, 11:15 AM - **1 Like**

So I bought this lens at an antique store. It was mounted on a Pentax film camera and I wondered if I could use it. It came off of the film camera, but it wont come off of the K-1. Now I realize that this Sears lens has the dreaded Ricoh pin which is caught in the autofocus recess in the K-1 mount.

After some research, I have tried the wiggle and hope method and I have tried to get a .004 inch feeler gauge to get the pin back where it needs to be to get the lens off. The hint to toggle the autofocus switch back and forth on the camera to push the pin away from the camera is not helping. I don't think the autofocus is doing anything because the lens is not fully mounted (it got stuck) or the camera knows that it is a manual focus lens.

Any suggestions?

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**aslyfox** · 12-29-2018, 11:54 AM

oh my

good luck

have you seen this:

The Canonical Stuck Lens Information thread

Ricoh pin removal {tag}: Pentax SLR Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review

____________________

All Right...I did it....Ricoh Pin Lens is STUCK! - Page 3 - PentaxForums.com

**twilhelm** · 12-29-2018, 12:36 PM - **1 Like**

When you toggle the AF/MF switch to the AF position, the AF gear pushes out past the flange mount. It is spring loaded, so it only exerts a small amount of pressure on the pin. With the switch in the AF position, work with the smallest feeler gauge you can locate, working it into the mount at the point that directly correlates to the AF/MF switch. Be patient and you will be able to release the lens.

Good Luck!

Not a Number · 12-29-2018, 05:59 PM

Doesn't the A(P) mode on the lens retract and lower the pin?

**davidreilly3207** · 12-30-2018, 02:57 PM

Originally posted by Not a Number

Doesn't the A(P) mode on the lens retract and lower the pin?

No. Automotive feeler gauge best way to dismount the lens.

**Botanizer** · 12-31-2018, 01:24 PM

Does this Sears pin have the rounded tip or the flat tip? Should the camera be off or on when I use the auto - manual focus toggle switch?

**pres589** · 12-31-2018, 01:48 PM - **1 Like**

Doesn't matter if the camera is on or off as far as what you're trying to accomplish. I would leave it off.

I would imagine that the pin itself is square shouldered which is why this is being so difficult.

I did the same thing you did once with a different lens and my K-5 II. Just work the A/MF switch with some light pressure on the feeler gauge so that it can slip between the flanges of the camera and lens. Once that happens, rotate and remove the lens.

Not a Number · 12-31-2018, 01:51 PM - **1 Like**

I don't know if the pin is rounded or not. Usually round pins don't often cause a problem.

It shouldn't matter if the camera is on or not, the screwdrive shaft extends or retracts regardless. The shaft is spring loaded so which ever has the stronger spring wins.

**Botanizer** · 12-31-2018, 07:01 PM

1. Continue with the feeler gauges that I have, .005 inch and thinner.

2. Get a .005 inch thick saw blade for a dremel and cut the pin.

3. Get a hacksaw and cut the lens tube an inch or so from the camera leaving the lens closest to the camera intact and try to find and pry the flange to release the pin.

4. Send the mess to KEH and pay $300 + shipping...

**pres589** · 12-31-2018, 07:09 PM - **1 Like**

I would be scared to use a saw blade to cut the pin while the lens is mounted. It sounds like a good way to get debris into the camera body and nick up the mount on the body at the same time.

I would fine a different shop than KEH if they want $300 to do this. I don't know where you are; there's a shop in Topeka that I like working with that is very reasonable but other options exist.

**aslyfox** · 12-31-2018, 07:13 PM

Originally posted by pres589

I would be scared to use a saw blade to cut the pin while the lens is mounted. It sounds like a good way to get debris into the camera body and nick up the mount on the body at the same time.

I would fine a different shop than KEH if they want $300 to do this. I don't know where you are; there's a shop in Topeka that I like working with that is very reasonable but other options exist.

I believe pres589 may be talking about Wolfe's

Wolfe's Camera Shop | Topeka KS

**pres589** · 12-31-2018, 07:24 PM

Nope! Phototronic; http://www.phototronictopeka.com/

**aslyfox** · 12-31-2018, 07:43 PM

Originally posted by pres589

Nope! Phototronic; http://www.phototronictopeka.com/

I've seen it but never visited

**pres589** · 12-31-2018, 07:59 PM

Go if you need something fixed. He kind of... doesn't do anything for less than $65 as he bills an hour for more than a few minute's time. But I've been generally happy with working with the guy that owns the place and have learned from him. I think once he figured out I was serious and not some wanna-be with a film camera as a fad move, he was pretty receptive.

He also doesn't sell anything, as a general rule, so if you want to purchase cameras or lenses, it's not your stop.

**aslyfox** · 12-31-2018, 08:28 PM

Originally posted by pres589

Go if you need something fixed. He kind of... doesn't do anything for less than $65 as he bills an hour for more than a few minute's time. But I've been generally happy with working with the guy that owns the place and have learned from him. I think once he figured out I was serious and not some wanna-be with a film camera as a fad move, he was pretty receptive.

He also doesn't sell anything, as a general rule, so if you want to purchase cameras or lenses, it's not your stop.

good to know

thanks

12-31-2018, 01:24 PM	#6
Botanizer Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2017 Posts: 286 Original Poster	More questions Does this Sears pin have the rounded tip or the flat tip? Should the camera be off or on when I use the auto - manual focus toggle switch?

12-31-2018, 07:01 PM	#9
Botanizer Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2017 Posts: 286 Original Poster	Options 1. Continue with the feeler gauges that I have, .005 inch and thinner. 2. Get a .005 inch thick saw blade for a dremel and cut the pin. 3. Get a hacksaw and cut the lens tube an inch or so from the camera leaving the lens closest to the camera intact and try to find and pry the flange to release the pin. 4. Send the mess to KEH and pay $300 + shipping...

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12-29-2018, 11:54 AM	#2
aslyfox Seeker of Knowledge Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Topeka, Kansas Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 24,581	oh my good luck have you seen this: The Canonical Stuck Lens Information thread Ricoh pin removal {tag}: Pentax SLR Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review ____________________ All Right...I did it....Ricoh Pin Lens is STUCK! - Page 3 - PentaxForums.com

12-29-2018, 12:36 PM - 1 Like	#3
twilhelm Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Florida Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,369	When you toggle the AF/MF switch to the AF position, the AF gear pushes out past the flange mount. It is spring loaded, so it only exerts a small amount of pressure on the pin. With the switch in the AF position, work with the smallest feeler gauge you can locate, working it into the mount at the point that directly correlates to the AF/MF switch. Be patient and you will be able to release the lens. Good Luck!

12-29-2018, 05:59 PM	#4
Not a Number Moderator Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Venice, CA Posts: 10,526	Doesn't the A(P) mode on the lens retract and lower the pin?

12-30-2018, 02:57 PM	#5
davidreilly3207 Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: South Jersey Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 720	Originally posted by Not a Number Doesn't the A(P) mode on the lens retract and lower the pin? No. Automotive feeler gauge best way to dismount the lens.

12-31-2018, 01:48 PM - 1 Like	#7
pres589 Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Wichita, KS Photos: Albums Posts: 4,529	Doesn't matter if the camera is on or off as far as what you're trying to accomplish. I would leave it off. I would imagine that the pin itself is square shouldered which is why this is being so difficult. I did the same thing you did once with a different lens and my K-5 II. Just work the A/MF switch with some light pressure on the feeler gauge so that it can slip between the flanges of the camera and lens. Once that happens, rotate and remove the lens.

12-31-2018, 01:51 PM - 1 Like	#8
Not a Number Moderator Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Venice, CA Posts: 10,526	I don't know if the pin is rounded or not. Usually round pins don't often cause a problem. It shouldn't matter if the camera is on or not, the screwdrive shaft extends or retracts regardless. The shaft is spring loaded so which ever has the stronger spring wins.

12-31-2018, 07:09 PM - 1 Like	#10
pres589 Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Wichita, KS Photos: Albums Posts: 4,529	I would be scared to use a saw blade to cut the pin while the lens is mounted. It sounds like a good way to get debris into the camera body and nick up the mount on the body at the same time. I would fine a different shop than KEH if they want $300 to do this. I don't know where you are; there's a shop in Topeka that I like working with that is very reasonable but other options exist.

12-31-2018, 07:13 PM	#11
aslyfox Seeker of Knowledge Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Topeka, Kansas Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 24,581	Originally posted by pres589 I would be scared to use a saw blade to cut the pin while the lens is mounted. It sounds like a good way to get debris into the camera body and nick up the mount on the body at the same time. I would fine a different shop than KEH if they want $300 to do this. I don't know where you are; there's a shop in Topeka that I like working with that is very reasonable but other options exist. I believe pres589 may be talking about Wolfe's Wolfe's Camera Shop \| Topeka KS

12-31-2018, 07:24 PM	#12
pres589 Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Wichita, KS Photos: Albums Posts: 4,529	Nope! Phototronic; http://www.phototronictopeka.com/

12-31-2018, 07:43 PM	#13
aslyfox Seeker of Knowledge Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Topeka, Kansas Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 24,581	Originally posted by pres589 Nope! Phototronic; http://www.phototronictopeka.com/ I've seen it but never visited

12-31-2018, 07:59 PM	#14
pres589 Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Wichita, KS Photos: Albums Posts: 4,529	Go if you need something fixed. He kind of... doesn't do anything for less than $65 as he bills an hour for more than a few minute's time. But I've been generally happy with working with the guy that owns the place and have learned from him. I think once he figured out I was serious and not some wanna-be with a film camera as a fad move, he was pretty receptive. He also doesn't sell anything, as a general rule, so if you want to purchase cameras or lenses, it's not your stop.

12-31-2018, 08:28 PM	#15
aslyfox Seeker of Knowledge Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Topeka, Kansas Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 24,581	Originally posted by pres589 Go if you need something fixed. He kind of... doesn't do anything for less than $65 as he bills an hour for more than a few minute's time. But I've been generally happy with working with the guy that owns the place and have learned from him. I think once he figured out I was serious and not some wanna-be with a film camera as a fad move, he was pretty receptive. He also doesn't sell anything, as a general rule, so if you want to purchase cameras or lenses, it's not your stop. good to know thanks